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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2012, 10:07:23 AM »
By the way (as my guitar will go to the tech), what do you think of 022 vs 047 tone cap for the BG50's?
And what about a treble bleed mod?
Can't say much about tone caps - I have Delta-Tone curcuit in my Tele: when tone pot is at 10 - tone is bypassed and I have pickup straight to the output (but volume pot is still working). I think it will sound great with BG50's, but I still thinking about treble bleed mod too, because when rolling down volume, even in Delta-mode, I loose some treble, so I may try treble bleed at volume pot too.

I like to do all soldering and setup myself, but this time I'll bring it to my tech, guitar needs some good setup - little bit of nut and fretwork, for which I don't have any tools.
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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2012, 10:12:57 AM »
I've never tried the delat tone circuit, the tone is brighter with more output isn't it?
(I wouldn't do the mod with the asat classic original pickups as they're SO bright!!)

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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2012, 10:17:44 AM »
I've never tried the delat tone circuit, the tone is brighter with more output isn't it?
(I wouldn't do the mod with the asat classic original pickups as they're SO bright!!)
Yes, you are right, with tone at 10 you have more treble and little more output.
As for a treble bleed mode I've found some diagram on Fender Forums



Just run piece of wire from outside leg of Tone pot to middle one on Volume pot.

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaster-discussion-forum/124412-what-cap-best-treble-bleed-mod.html
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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2012, 10:27:05 AM »
Well done, I've seen that topic too ;)

I guess I'll leave it stock with the BG50's to begin with (I have a 047 tone cap)

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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2012, 10:41:09 AM »
Well done, I've seen that topic too ;)

I guess I'll leave it stock with the BG50's to begin with (I have a 047 tone cap)
Me too. First I'll leave it as is, but if needed I always can solder piece of wire myself.
For me now fret work and nut is more important,  compared to my Suhr it is much harder to play Tele, action feels quite high (although it's 4/64 inch gap between strings and fret on 17th fret by Fender specs, same on my Strat). I think nut cut to high, or grooves just have not enough depth for 010 set of strings (guitar came with stock 009).
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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2012, 10:44:33 AM »
Yes the nut cut is critical!! Same for me as I'll go to 11's from 10's

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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2012, 12:57:21 PM »
I've been liking the twang of single coils lately too - using my Tele (Shed p/ups) and Les Paul (BKP MQ's) more so than my Vee.  Makes a change as the Vee has been used almost exclusively since I got it last Aug/Sept.


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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2012, 01:07:37 PM »
I love single coils!! I had an Agile les paul custom replica, black with gold hardware, I thought about putting some Mississipi Queen in it, but I've finally sold it, les pauls are way too big for me...I much prefer Tellys  8)
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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2012, 01:14:54 PM »
By the way I just got a great Reverend charger 290 (one of the very first models), loaded with P90s.
If the BGF50's are that good, maybe I'd consider the NANTUCKET 90's  :twisted:

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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2012, 02:12:30 PM »
Now that I look for tele mods, I want to get those Glendale hardware :
Bridge double cut :
with Glendale saddles :

I NEED the double cut because I do a lot of palm muting (but they'll sure look great on my Asat  8) , very expensive though... ). The other reason I need these is saddles going down on my current bridge...

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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2012, 02:36:42 PM »
I personally don't like ashtray bridge, and prefer separate saddle for each string also - maybe it's not "vintage" Tele spec, but it's one of the things that sold me on American Standard, and not any classic reissue or etc.
I have 6 bent saddles and no borders around bridge plate that I like a lot.
Another thing I like - it's 9.5 inch fretboard radius instead of 7.5 on classic Tele.
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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2012, 02:58:10 PM »
I don't like 7.5 inch radius neither, I have a 12 inch radius in my Asat.
I do like classic 3 saddles look, some say there's more sustain with those.
But the main reasons are those explain above!! (palm mute and saddles going down...)
Are you satisfied with your american standard bridge?

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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2012, 03:15:07 PM »

I do like classic 3 saddles look, some say there's more sustain with those.
Maybe it's true, but I prefer 6 saddles because I can intonate each string better, it's a good option if suddenly I will move to hybrid string sets.

Are you satisfied with your american standard bridge?
Hardware-wise I have no complaints about bridge, feels same as on my Strat Plus, and close to Suhr.
Frets are good, but fretwork still can be better, I think. Even I hope to see Fender PLEK all his American models at least, as G&L does lately.

But Suhr is still a killer instrument - both quality of craftsmanship and sound.
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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2012, 08:20:18 PM »

I do like classic 3 saddles look, some say there's more sustain with those.
Maybe it's true, but I prefer 6 saddles because I can intonate each string better, it's a good option if suddenly I will move to hybrid string sets.

For those of us that are not going to move to a hybrid string set anytime soon, using compensated saddles is a good option...
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Re: New Flat 50s
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2012, 11:26:30 PM »
D*** I'm really gasing for the glendale bridge+saddles!!!
2 or 3 weeks to wait though...(out of stock bridge plate)

Still don't know which gauge I'm going to use, 11-48 or 10-46? (in Eb tuning)
10-46 is fine for slinky blues licks, but I REALLY like more tension for rhythm (and I play 90% rhythm).
Forget the hybrid sets, I don't like them.
Still I have time until the glendale bridge arrives!!

Ps: my BGF50 just arrived today but I won't be back home until sunday  :(