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Help! My Engl Powerball just Died!!!!!!
« on: July 18, 2012, 05:58:31 PM »
As the title says my Powerball just died.

I turned it on loud static like noise (first i thought it was picking up a cb radio) then strummed a few chords and all seemed fine. Then there was a couple of loud pops and no noise.

The LEDs were still ON on the front of the amp, but then I caught a whiff of burning and immediately turned it off.

Could it just be the power valves failing? I've not changed them for quite a few years? anything I should check before I start throwing cash at it?

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Re: Help! My Engl Powerball just Died!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 08:01:55 PM »
This exact thing happened to a friends bugera and it was one of the screen resistors that burnt out.

If you are comfortable with taking it out of the headshell and taking a photo that would help.

Also did you notice if there was any redplating going on?
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Re: Help! My Engl Powerball just Died!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 08:54:49 PM »
This exact thing happened to a friends bugera and it was one of the screen resistors that burnt out.

If you are comfortable with taking it out of the headshell and taking a photo that would help.

Also did you notice if there was any redplating going on?

I quickly looked at the valves before I shut it off and they looked normal to me.

I took the chassis out of the case but all the PCB's are upside down and its not completely obvious how to release them - although I've had a couple of whisky's so I'll look again in the morning.

I can't see any burning around the pcb. Ive had a quick look around valve sockets and cant see much.

Will get some pics tomorrow.
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Re: Help! My Engl Powerball just Died!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2012, 11:21:15 PM »
You can't usually tell if a tube's developed an internal short just by looking at it. Loud pops could mean a tube going bad, the burning smell could mean a resistor going open circuit, maybe a coupling cap has blown open or if you're very unlucky then it's a transformer problem.

A quick look at the PCB - when you're fully sober - will probably show up an obvious dead component.

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Re: Help! My Engl Powerball just Died!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2012, 09:49:55 PM »
A quick look at the PCB - when you're fully sober

One cannot stress this enough :  "when  you're fully sober".  The power supply caps store lethal voltages (400+V DC) for many hours after you unplugged your amp, so better a dead componant than a dead guitar player.

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Re: Help! My Engl Powerball just Died!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2012, 08:41:49 AM »
A quick look at the PCB - when you're fully sober

One cannot stress this enough :  "when  you're fully sober".  The power supply caps store lethal voltages (400+V DC) for many hours after you unplugged your amp, so better a dead componant than a dead guitar player.

and this will be my 1000th contribution to this forum... hopefully a useful one :mrgreen:


A very useful one which I fully support - the voltages in a tube amp must be respected at all times.

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Re: Help! My Engl Powerball just Died!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2013, 12:31:25 PM »
I've finally got round to sorting this out as I've been using my Peavey Vypyr 30 for a while as my focus moved to my car for a while.

Anyway it was a dead power valve so I replaced the JJ's that were in there with a set of cryo JJ's and had it re-biased and it sounds better than ever!

Although it might not be around fro much longer as a secondhand mesa Roadster has popped up nearby that I might not be able to say no too.  8)
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