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What pickups for these high-gain telecasters?
« on: August 31, 2012, 09:45:53 PM »
I am wanting to deck out two telecasters with BKPs, each has a different configuration and tonal agenda.  I play in a '90s influenced post-hardcore/metalcore band with progressive elements, think more along the lines of Refused and Snapcase, rather than all those '00s metalcore bands.  We can go from thrashing riffs to complicated chords to clean, ambient sounds all in one set.

I want to setup one telecaster to be a pure metal, riffing machine.  I without a doubt want a Piledriver in the bridge here, and a humbucker neck.  I am looking for a BKP that's similar in voicing to a DiMarzio Air Norton in the neck.  I love how smooth and crystal clear an Air Norton sounds, how legato and leads seem to meld together with creamy goodness.  It has this "human voice" quality to it that I've not heard from other pickups.  But, it has to be a pickup with a voice to compliment the Piledriver, and will only be wired with one of it's coils when used in the middle position with the bridge pickup.  This guitar is going to going for a rhythm sound similar to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwn_mLIJcGI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvEM-t6XtrA

The second telecaster needs to be suitable for a light progressive/alternative rock sound.  I want high-output pickups, but something that still sounds like a telecaster.  I've read that the Piledriver sounds almost like a humbucker and loses the telecaster character with the volume all the way up, and I want something different in the second guitar.  This guitar will have a typical telecaster configuration with two single coils, and is going to be wired with a 4-way switch so that I can get the neck and bridge in either series or parallel.  I need something hot and crunchy, but not overbearing for lighter, more melodic music than what I posted above.  I will need some decent cleans, but I am honestly not too picky about the cleans being pristine or anything like that, as long as they are usable since I often roll down the guitar volume for cleans, which keeps some of the grit when picked hard.  I am leaning towards the Flat '50s Blackguard set at the moment, but open to other opinions here.  I'm not sure how the Blackguards will sound with the 4-way mod series wiring.  This guitar is going to be going for sounds more akin to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rglCohkjja8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-cepZ6K7mY

I use the volume and tone knobs on my guitars quiet extensively, and mostly play through a single cannel although the amplifiers I use are multi-channel.  I use an EVH 5150 III and a Mesa Single Rectifier through Orange cabinets with Vintage 30s.  I don't necessarily want the tones of the bands in the videos I posted, those are only to illustrate the styles of music I'm trying to cover.

Thanks in advance for any advice...

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Re: What pickups for these high-gain telecasters?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2012, 09:47:08 PM »
Also, please recommend whether I should use 500k or 250k pots with these guitars.  I've read that Piledrivers around best with 500s, and most likely so will a neck humbucker.  But, what about the Blackguards, or whatever set gets recommend for that guitar?  250k?

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Re: What pickups for these high-gain telecasters?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2012, 10:17:15 AM »
BGF50 for the second one, no doubt, and you'll want 250K pots.
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Re: What pickups for these high-gain telecasters?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2012, 05:36:24 PM »
I actually got a reply from Ben at BKP.  He suggest that the Piledriver be paired with a Cold Sweat neck, another option being a Black Hawk for those fluid leads ala DiMarzio Air Norton.  He says to use BKP's 550k pots with these hot pickups.  For the other guitar he suggested the BG50s set with BKP 280K pots.  So it sounds like I was already on the right track, and I spend a lot of time last night going through some of the user clips on the forum too... I definitely feel confident about these choices, still open to suggestions though, especially on the humbucker neck with the Piledriver.  I won't be ordering until next Friday/payday. 

Thanks for the input, BigB.

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Re: What pickups for these high-gain telecasters?
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2012, 04:21:43 AM »
I noticed that BKP has some P90 options too.  I had no idea they made those... I am a P90 fan and might have to consider that for the neck spot with the Piledriver instead of a Cold Sweat humbucker.  Any suggestions on which P90 would sound great for crunchy, clear high-gain leads?

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Re: What pickups for these high-gain telecasters?
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2012, 11:25:08 PM »
If you're going for P90-size pickups look at the Supermassive. The hb-sized Stockholm is a bit hotter and might overpower the Piledriver.
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Re: What pickups for these high-gain telecasters?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2012, 01:20:19 AM »
Thanks.  I was able to buy and install a used Piledriver into one tele, and I'm thinking twice about buying a P90 or humbucker for the neck.  This guitar will be used mostly for rhythm sounds in a heavier rock setting, so I may Esquire it with a 500k pot and bypassing everything else.  Just a high output BKP giving the amp everything it can.

I'm still going for a Blackguard set for the other tele though.