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GuitarIv

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Decapitated Tone.
« on: September 30, 2012, 04:19:46 PM »
So, lately I have "Carnival is forever" by Decapitated running on repeat every day. The tone on the album is unreal, for those who don't know it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KFObx3n2K0&feature=related

I know Vogg, their guitarist uses EMGs in his guitar (81) and the rythm tracks were recorded with a Crate Excalibur Solid State Amp. Now I have decided to put a Ceramic Nailbomb into my Ibanez (Baswood, Maple Neck and Fretboard) and I'm wondering if the C-Bomb could achieve such a tone? Not considering the amp. I read a few times that the Miracle Man is closer to the EMG 81.

Opinions?

p.s.: for those who are into Decap, here's an amazing studio diary for the album:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42jVeesidlQ&feature=related

Cheers!
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 10:10:57 PM »
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 10:45:06 PM »
If you want an EMG tone then why not just go EMG? i love the Cbomb in my guitar, i think its a very versatile pickup which excels in metal.
 I havent got experience of the Miracleman (though I would love to try one) but when I asked Tim regarding what pickup was closest to the EMG 81 his answer was the Painkiller.
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 10:51:02 PM »
I want something that has as much power as the 81 in terms of pressure, the raw sound in the clip. I don't want a EMG because I don't want my guitar to be equipped with a battery, to me it's just... wrong. Neither does it have to be a "clone" :P

Since I got my first Bareknuckle I don't want any other brand because BKPs are really worth the money imo ^^
I'm just unsure if the Ceramic Nailbomb will be able to achieve a similar raw sound for such heavy riffing, so I'm looking out for folks that have experience with the PU
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2012, 12:07:00 AM »
Go SD blackouts then  :D  Having a battery isn't much of a hassle seeing they last a few thousand hours.  You get that tone and nice pick response.  I has a c-pig in my 7 string and it, for power, blew the actives away.

I went actives as I like Fear Factory.  It's what they use and I have no issues with batteries.  It also gave me reason to buy a Les Paul.  Needed something passive  :)
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2012, 12:42:12 AM »
Please dont get blackouts. Tubby mushy peices of shitee.

I think that that sound has EMG all over it and youre never going to get anything but a somewhat similar cousin 3 times removed with anything else.

That said, the AM is the best bet of BKs for its mid grind. I have lots of experience with the C-Bomb and its high end and high mids are too polite and tailed off for that kinda thing for starters.
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2012, 01:55:16 AM »
Blackout 1's are fine.  Not much different to EMG's.
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2012, 02:06:10 AM »
not much what now?
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 05:12:38 AM »
Agree to disagree it seems.
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2012, 09:02:52 PM »
Quote from: GuitarIv on September 30, 2012, 04:19:46 PM
So, lately I have "Carnival is forever" by Decapitated running on repeat every day. The tone on the album is unreal, for those who don't know it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KFObx3n2K0&feature=related

I know Vogg, their guitarist uses EMGs in his guitar (81) and the rythm tracks were recorded with a Crate Excalibur Solid State Amp. Now I have decided to put a Ceramic Nailbomb into my Ibanez (Baswood, Maple Neck and Fretboard) and I'm wondering if the C-Bomb could achieve such a tone? Not considering the amp. I read a few times that the Miracle Man is closer to the EMG 81.

Opinions?

p.s.: for those who are into Decap, here's an amazing studio diary for the album:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42jVeesidlQ&feature=related

Cheers!

I'd say if EMGs were used, you can't go wrong with that. Great sound is just as much a result of the production. Of course a Miracle Man will do as well probably.
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2012, 10:39:12 PM »
Quote from: MDV on October 01, 2012, 02:06:10 AM
not much what now?

 :lol:

I agree. I had a set of blackout AHB1s and they were quite possibly the worst pickups I have ever played. muddy overgained and really flabby in the lows.

Replaced them with various pickups all of which were far better.

I'll agree with MDV and say EMG>Aftermath>EMG if the the aftermath didn't do it for you  :D
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2012, 06:22:52 AM »
I should say I do prefer EMG's (X series and Het set) over AHB1s.  ABH1s do what I want but are a one trick pony.  But back on topic, I'd send an email to the guys asking about Aftermaths.
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2012, 01:12:23 PM »
Well, as said EMGs aren't an option for me. However I've emailed BKP and got a response from Tim. The ceramic Blackhawk should do the trick. And don't worry, I'm perfectly aware that it won't sound exactly like this ^^
As said Vogg is using EMGs and playing the rythms with a Crate Excalibur head, which is a really old solid sate amp. The guitars aren't double tracked either, for a raw, Pantera like sound. I don't know how exactly they did it, but the sound is really amazing to my ears. I'd really recommend to watch the short studio report, a lot of interessting stuff to see :)
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2012, 05:44:21 PM »
Well after listening to that youtube link I'd say that there's a lot of character that the amp is imprinting on that sound; the pickup probably is really relatively unimportant for that sound.

EDIT:
I think the Rocktron Metal Planet might be something that could get you to that sound.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2012, 05:46:24 PM by Alex »
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Re: Decapitated Tone.
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2012, 05:58:50 PM »
Thanks, I shall check it out :)
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