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JDC

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Re: String Experience
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2012, 02:51:41 AM »
Mark you tried the EB cobalts yet? The stats and "sciencey" marketing buff made me think you'd like them

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Re: String Experience
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2012, 03:18:16 AM »
No, no interest in them really. I rate normal EBs as the worst big brand on the market, and AB clips I've heard show basicaly no difference. Hype and marketing.

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Re: String Experience
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2012, 09:31:57 AM »
Started using Dunlop Heavy Core, find them great for Drop D tuning

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Re: String Experience
« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2012, 01:21:58 PM »
Mark you tried the EB cobalts yet? The stats and "sciencey" marketing buff made me think you'd like them

I tried them, didn't really like them. They felt super the first 2-3 days, but went dead very very quickly. No wonder all the stars endorse them, they probably get fresh strings each gig! That and the $$$$...

Also got me a pack of Pyramids, as I've heard alot of good things about them, and they were definitely an improvement over my previous strings. Also have a pack of La Bella strings coming in as I've heard great things about them too.

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Re: String Experience
« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2012, 11:11:55 PM »
Aaaaaaand back to daddario for me.

12 - 16 - 20p - 32 - 44 - 56 doing great in A#

No more waiting, and the sound is if anything better. Low end is a little tubbier, but nothing I cant dial out or control with playing, high end has more bite and extension Vs the newtone thick cored, and they sound 'bigger', for want of a better word.

I think the downside of the thick cored strings is clarity of high end overtones. I'm pretty sure the thicker core inhibits them, and makes them...weird. The low end dynamics can be controlled with technique, overtones not so much.

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Re: String Experience
« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2012, 11:16:44 PM »
I don't even bother with strings anymore and everyone's been saying that my playing has improved tremendously.
It wasn't a mistake, it was chromaticism, I swear.

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Re: String Experience
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2012, 08:13:26 AM »
I've been using 10-52 in Eb tuning for years now. I regularly used DR Tite Fits and they I liked them. The shop I regularly used just ran out of them..so I've used GHS Boomers for a while now. They're OK.

I have to bring up Skull strings, they're actually the only brand I remember where I immediately thought that
'these don't work'. They had something nasty going on in the upper frequencies that I could not get rid of.

Having used 10-52 for years, I now might go to a thinner gauge. I like the tension, but especially on a big and warm sounding guitar, the low string tone can feel a bit..tubby. Thinner strings have a leaner, brighter tone, and also add a certain spongy thing to the tone when you know how to use it. Which I came across again when I got a (great!) -91 Tokai LP on loan from a friend. Equipped with 10-46 Elixirs. Practically plays itself :)

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Re: String Experience
« Reply #37 on: October 19, 2012, 08:57:35 AM »
Zaned, I'm increasingly a fan of thinner strings. Theres a certain trade off that has to be made for mass; too little and your tone is unredeemably thin, and theres not a hell of a lot you can do about it further down the chain. Too much mass and theres bloat you cant get rid of and overtones suffer as they're weaker and fewer on the thicker string.

There is the matter, crucially to me, of tightness. Its natural to think that tightness in tone comes from physical tightness in the string. Thats one way, but tightness can be controlled and imparted with good playing. Clear ringing overtones cant, if the strings thickness is fighting them.

I used to use a 66 on the A# (still to a 12 on the high C). I'm down to 56 now. I think thats about right. For E to D I use 10s on 25.5 or 10-48 on 24.75.

The other factor in (comparatively) thinner strings, is you've got somewhere to go if you dig in. Hit a thick string weakly and it responds poorly, you have to batter it to get it to respond. But hit em harder and dig in more and they dont really give any more. Tight, more controlled and lighter playing on a thinner string can get the same tightness that hammering a heavier string gives you, but you can still get huge sounds digging in hard. It gives the guitar more dynamic range.

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Re: String Experience
« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2012, 09:02:44 AM »
Oh, and with regard to my previous newtones, my 3 main guitars that I keep setup for me (as opposed to for clients use in E or close) were all supposed to be 12 - 56. I measured em. the '56' was 1.32mm on all the guitars.

Thats closer to a 52.

The things you take on faith, eh?

Didnt bother with the others. Didnt care, had seen enough.

The daddarios I've just got measure 1.43mm. 0.0562". Much better.

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Re: String Experience
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2012, 10:33:24 AM »

The other factor in (comparatively) thinner strings, is you've got somewhere to go if you dig in. Hit a thick string weakly and it responds poorly, you have to batter it to get it to respond. But hit em harder and dig in more and they dont really give any more. Tight, more controlled and lighter playing on a thinner string can get the same tightness that hammering a heavier string gives you, but you can still get huge sounds digging in hard. It gives the guitar more dynamic range.

Yeah, right now I feel like I can get more variation from them, both tonewise and dynamically.  And if you want, you can use more bottom on the amp, as the string tone is leaner. Which in turn leads to fuller tone on upper strings, and still hefty tone when you dig in on those low strings.

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