Gastropubs

[juansolo]

The problem is that it £3.35 for a pint these days, and they wonder why no bugger goes any more...

[WezV]

The problem is that it £3.35 for a pint these days, and they wonder why no bugger goes any more...

its about 40% tax, then some for the landlord and the actual increase in cost of materials, grain has gone up massively in the last few years.

I was in a meeting recently where we were actually told it was good we managed to get 1p profit per pint we brew.


the thing that annoys me is the tax rate paid on beer (set by uk government) which is much higher than wine or cider (set by EU)

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/29664

[juansolo]

The problem is that it £3.35 for a pint these days, and they wonder why no bugger goes any more...

its about 40% tax, then some for the landlord and the actual increase in cost of materials, grain has gone up massively in the last few years.

I was in a meeting recently where we were actually told it was good we managed to get 1p profit per pint we brew.


the thing that annoys me is the tax rate paid on beer (set by uk government) which is much higher than wine or cider (set by EU)

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/29664

Sadly e-petitions are worth about as much as the paper they're not written on. We had one get at least half a million signatures and it was just kicked out straight out. Which essentially proved the utter pointlessness of them.

Politicians = liars, thieves and w**kers interested in their own progression/power rather than the people they're supposed to represent. No politician should ever want to be a politician as far as I'm concerned. It certainly shouldn't be a f**king career path.

Then again I just left the bank I worked for for pretty much the same reason. Same breed of w**kers are in charge of them. No wonder the country is in the shite.

[juansolo]

Hmmm, sorry about that. I have an issue with people who can steal, give it back and say sorry when they're caught and get away with it. Especially if you or I did it we'd go to jail. I view them on the same sort of level as criminals, thugs and arseholes...

...and nimbys. I really bloody hate nimbys. ...and French Trafpol who are only a step away from nazis.

[Ian Price]

Heard yesterday that my local of 25 years is being 're-developed' as a GASTROPUB. I am in a state of shock.

I'm a (large) Yorkshireman and I like my pub food. I accidentally went in a gastropub in Reading and ordered pie,  chips and a pint. I was not a very happy chappy with what (little) they brought. Did the $%&#ing size of me and my accent not ring any alarm bells? I think my comment of 'where's the rest of it?' went down as well as expected.

Which pub was that? I'm from around the Reading area but don't frequent pubs there very often.

[juansolo]

Can't remember but it was on the river near a bridge...

[jpfamps]

I think we should return to 70's pub food: plain, salt & vinegar or cheese & onion crisps, salted peanuts, and pork scratchings.

Yeah Frank, and lets not forget Sunday specials like Chicken in a basket or scampi and chips.

With a prawn c--ktail starter.

[jpfamps]

With a prawn c--ktail starter.

Good to see offensive food is censored on this forum; an 8 year old could have access to this.

[FredD]

Hmmm, sorry about that. I have an issue with people who can steal, give it back and say sorry when they're caught and get away with it. Especially if you or I did it we'd go to jail. I view them on the same sort of level as criminals, thugs and arseholes...

...and nimbys. I really bloody hate nimbys. ...and French Trafpol who are only a step away from nazis.

Then perhaps the answer is ANCHOVY ANARCHY !!   :shock:

[HTH AMPS]

The landlords I speak to when gigging all sing the same tune - the breweries are squeezing them dry and they're barely making ends meet.

[gwEm]

I like pubs that happen to have good food.

To me a 'gastropub' suggests more of a restaurant type thing, with a pub-theme.. And I don't like those at all - poncey small portions and all that.

[WezV]

The landlords I speak to when gigging all sing the same tune - the breweries are squeezing them dry and they're barely making ends meet.

from the brewery perspective  its the large buying groups (chain pups and supermarkets)  squeezing us dry and a lot of independent pubs playing breweries off against each other to get the best deals.

you cant just blame breweries for the number of pubs that have to shut.   prices of beer have gone up, but so have the prices of raw ingredients and the amount of tax.   



and everyone is trying to save money, so less people drink all night in pubs

[richard]

Happy to say the plans to change my local have been shelved for the time being. More gigs for my band at one of the best venues we get to play at.

[Philly Q]

I like pubs that happen to have good food.

To me a 'gastropub' suggests more of a restaurant type thing, with a pub-theme.. And I don't like those at all - poncey small portions and all that.

The type of gastropubs I have in mind don't have "poncey small portions", they just have good food, cooked fresh on the premises, by someone who actually knows how to cook. 

As opposed to the frozen, boil-in-the-bag rubbish served by most pub chains.

[ToneMonkey]

10 days until my local reopens:

http://www.herculesrevived.co.uk/

I'm glad it's reopening as I can see it from my front room and now I can stop thinking about buying it myself. Rumor has it that someone from the next village bought it for their son as a wedding present and there's no competing with that  :?