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AndyR

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2013, 08:52:31 AM »
If they put them out again, they will be lower priced I'm guessing. If they don't, then I'd hop on ones on eBay very quickly while they're still routinely going for around $600, maybe cheaper.

Yep, my reasoning was: if they do stay limited, and if I end up regreting not getting one, then I'll buy the one that Philly will be trying to sell at a huge loss in Seconds Out...
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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2013, 09:53:23 AM »
If they do reissue Chinese versions of the Marshall 1watts, you can be sure they'll use cheaper components to preserve the value of the Bletchley ones. The UK ones apparently have half decent transformers in them for example.

Anyway, my overpriced 1w collectors item Marshall has arrived this morning so we will see.

The JMP1 is a great sounding amp by the way, proper toney!

I remember HTH on this very forum saying a good sounding 1w amp would take just as much development effort as a 100w, but of course since its seen as more of a practice amp, people aren't willing to pay more.

I still do think those 200quid Laney cub heads sounded pretty good, but definitely you can hear the difference with the 1w Marshalls.

Having said that I have just brought an amp (the 80s version) that I haven't ever heard, so it is a bit of a risk, but I think a calculated one. Also there was a decent Thomann b-stock discount, so lets see if I think its worth it later when I plug it in.
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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2013, 12:25:45 PM »
If they put them out again, they will be lower priced I'm guessing. If they don't, then I'd hop on ones on eBay very quickly while they're still routinely going for around $600, maybe cheaper.

Yep, my reasoning was: if they do stay limited, and if I end up regreting not getting one, then I'll buy the one that Philly will be trying to sell at a huge loss in Seconds Out...

 :lol:  I only make losses due to market forces, it's not a deliberate strategy...... although sometimes it feels like it.

Anyway, sounds like I might be able to make a profit if I held on to it (....nah, never happen!)

Interested to read your review later, gwEm!

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2013, 12:52:29 PM »
some of the non-UK marshall stuff is made in vietnam, isn't it? Or did I make that up? :lol:

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #49 on: January 18, 2013, 02:10:39 PM »
some of the non-UK marshall stuff is made in vietnam, isn't it? Or did I make that up? :lol:

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2013, 11:47:24 AM »
is that "yep!" to "I made it up", or "yep!" to "they're made in vietnam"?

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2013, 01:46:43 PM »
Some are made in Vietnam  :)

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2013, 04:27:19 AM »
is that "yep!" to "I made it up", or "yep!" to "they're made in vietnam"?

:lol:

Sorry :oops:


Sorry, should have specified... Vietnam is their main source outside of England AFAIK.

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2013, 02:41:27 PM »
thanks :) that's what i figured but i thought it was better to be sure :lol:

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2013, 05:55:54 PM »
how about the jca20? I usually hate el84's, but that one sounds pretty good through celestion v30's
I paid like US$250 new and that's one hard to beat price for an amp with 3 x 12ax7 and 2 x el84, decent headshell and tolex and relatively big transformers
still needs a bit of volume to sound GOOD, but I'd take it over a tiny terror or blackstar any day
I also like the dynamics... it cleans up pretty well for a single channel medium/high gainer
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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2013, 02:23:03 PM »
I've tried to not say anything about this topic. In fact I've typed something 4 times already since I first saw this topic and deleted it.

I understand using these low watt amps in your bedroom. They sound great to record with, and to use in the house so the wife doesn't want to toss you out. They don't sound great with a live band. Too small sounding... Sorry, but just not a fan of low watt amps. They sound too fizzy for me. Its just my opinion.....Its not the sound I'm after or like.

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2013, 04:38:23 PM »
There are other ways to make use of these kinds of amps, and their size and ability to get the crunch we all love that's only accessible through cooking an amps power section make them really useful for all uses. I for one am getting a device from Bad Cat called the Unleash later this week that acts as not only an attenuator for my big amp, but as a re-amper for my 1 watter that I can run through my 4x12 with the same results.

The main reason I got mine was that I felt I needed a backup/practice amp that sounded somewhat similar to my 100 watter. Getting another full sized head would be extremely impractical, and this was a cool substitute for that.

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2013, 02:42:16 PM »
There are other ways to make use of these kinds of amps, and their size and ability to get the crunch we all love that's only accessible through cooking an amps power section make them really useful for all uses. I for one am getting a device from Bad Cat called the Unleash later this week that acts as not only an attenuator for my big amp, but as a re-amper for my 1 watter that I can run through my 4x12 with the same results.

The main reason I got mine was that I felt I needed a backup/practice amp that sounded somewhat similar to my 100 watter. Getting another full sized head would be extremely impractical, and this was a cool substitute for that.

I think the low watt amps are great for the reasons you stated......Backstage/backup/practice amp.  I'm not a fan of using them live with a band.  :band4:

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2013, 03:00:36 PM »
Well obviously unless you have some sort of reamping device it will 100% either sound too thin and fizzy or not loud enough. Even mic'ing one of the combos or hooking it up to an extension cab would never warrant results good enough for gig use. I agree with you there  :D

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Re: tried a bunch of low watt amps
« Reply #59 on: January 22, 2013, 03:09:03 PM »
*&%(^$#%*%!!!!    The AFD-5 is real!

http://www.guitarhangar.com/marshall-sl-5-slash-signature-amplifier.html

2 channels, full EQ and presence, and reverb! I might have to sell a JMP-1. Interested Philly?