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Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« on: March 30, 2013, 07:53:22 AM »
I watched a documentary on Nile Rodgers on catch up this morning. It was on Good Friday. Very interesting even if his music isn't really your bag. They talk about his guitar a bit too. A very talented arranger. His band Chic, were in the charts a lot around the time i started secondary school. It takes me back to that time, when punk, disco, rock were all colliding in the charts here. He produced vast amounts of music too. He must be extremely rich. Not bad for a lad who's parents were both heroin addicts!  :D
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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2013, 08:04:04 AM »
I noticed that when I was looking on Iplayer last night. I'll go watch when I get a moment.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2013, 02:50:36 PM »
I noticed that when I was looking on Iplayer last night. I'll go watch when I get a moment.

Well worth watching Steve  :D
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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2013, 03:01:27 PM »
He's a legend, I want his studio.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2013, 09:57:59 AM »
Yeah, I watched it Friday night - excellent stuff. I'm almost ready to swap my Sultans and Apaches around again on the strength of it (Apaches to my 50s Roadworn - it makes that sound then, along with a whole bunch of others :D)
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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2013, 01:16:57 PM »
He's a legend, I want his studio.

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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2013, 02:04:13 PM »
Yeah, I watched it Friday night - excellent stuff. I'm almost ready to swap my Sultans and Apaches around again on the strength of it (Apaches to my 50s Roadworn - it makes that sound then, along with a whole bunch of others :D)

What pickup equivalent in the BKP range would you say he uses? Apaches, Mothers Milks or Sultans? I've been gassing fro a new Strat for years for this sort of sound. I've been using my Tele for rehearsals lately and it does a grand job I must say.
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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2013, 07:51:45 PM »
My coverband plays Le Freak. I play it with Mother's Milk though.
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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2013, 09:38:12 PM »
Didn't see the program but the guy's a Genius. Him & Bernard Edwards invented funk . he doesn't use a plec. His guitar playing in Chic should be the starting point for anyone  interested
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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2013, 10:20:57 PM »
an excellent documentary which pays worthy hommage to the great man
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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2013, 11:23:15 PM »
 I got to watch the documentary today . I would not go so far as to say he invented funk though his did push the cart a bit further down the road. He certainly has a distictive style. I am no lover of disco music but I do respect what he has contributed.

I'd say Apaches to get that clean tone.
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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2013, 11:32:49 PM »
Didn't see the program but the guy's a Genius. Him & Bernard Edwards invented funk.

I don't know about invented - what about James Brown, the Meters, George Clinton, Sly Stone, Curtis Mayfield, the Isley Brothers...?  :P

No denying that Rodgers is a very cool - and influential - chap, though.
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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2013, 01:04:54 AM »
I just caught the last 20 minutes.

I like his Strat!  :D


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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2013, 09:17:23 AM »
It's a nice guitar that Strat isn't it. He calls it the hit maker. Apparently it's the guitar he records every thing on. That goes beyond Chic. I read somewhere and it did get mention too in this doc', that its behind a few $billion of record sales  :lol:

He didn't invent funk. That came about in the 60's, born out of Jazz & blues. They called it R&B, Funk, Soul ect. Jimmy Nolan was James Browns guitarist. He would have been one of the early pioneers of funk guitar playing, if not the pioneer of that style. That all gave birth to Disco which was a bit annoying but harmless really looking back on it. That in turn started to evolve into hip hop, house right up to what Ali G called Speed Garage  :lol:
What you hear in the doc was how Nile Rodgers & Bernard Edwards developed what you could call a template. A unique style that was their signature sound and applied it to other artists who got them in to produce them.  That was all influenced by the 60's & early 70's funk bands. Bands like Earth, Wind & Fire. Kool & The Gang, before they become pop bands with the focus on the lead singers that were on commercial radio in the late 70's & early 80's, were pretty much instrumental funk bands. Chic kind of did the right thing at exactly the right time and a lot of other bands followed suit and became more like disco bands as that's where the money was. Record sales were huge back then so they would have cleaned up. These sounds remind me of the charts back in 77 & 78 There were so many different genres all competing in the charts. It's was a big event on a Sunday night listening to the top 40 with a cassette in the recorder taping the songs you liked. You could go from Chic, to the Sex Pistols, to some mind numbingly cr@p Nan's favourite like the Brotherhood of Man all in a few minutes  :lol: those were the bands you left the pause button in as they were a waste of tape and proper embarrassing if your mates heard it  :D
I've found some info on the George Van Eps method he was talking about too. There's a lot of info there but NR is talking about just playing 3 strings in a chord to make it sound less messy. It's all about controling damping with funk as it only works when you play it tight and very precisely.
http://www.tedgreene.com/audio/TedGreene_GeorgeVanEps.asp

Here's another great example of funk guitar by Onnie McIntire on the intro. These blokes were from Scotland

http://youtu.be/bSq93Hsn0Bg
 
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Re: Nile Rodgers On BBC4
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2013, 06:40:22 PM »
Yep, I'm with 38th - I'd say Apaches...

... which is why the two strats have been sat next to a soldering iron all day. Not actually done anything about it, but they have been sat there looking at me accusingly. Got to move them now so we can sit on the sofa :lol:

I'll let you know when I actually get round to it, my memory of the Apaches in the 50s Roadworn were very much like that sound in the doc and on some of the youtube clips I've watched :D
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