some really should buy this right now (les paul content)

[ericsabbath]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FUJIGEN-FGN-NCLS-20R-HS-Neo-Classic-Limited-Edition-HARD-STYLE-Les-Paul-/281117578187

dammit, I've been checking this 5x a day for a week
too bad I can't afford it right now  :(
this deserves a 10th anniversary set

[Kiichi]

That indeed is pretty nice, especially for that price!

[Lew]

'orrid dentist top, though ;-p

[Telerocker]

They're good quality, I read. Goodlooking LP.

[Philly Q]

I've never tried any actual FGN branded guitars, but Fujigen guitars are excellent, really well made.  I see it has the "CFS" system, didn't know they were still using it. 

I'm not sure it's that much of a bargain, though, unless it's a particularly high spec model.  Add import charges and shipping costs onto that and you're probably getting close to £1,250 (I don't know what import costs are like in Brazil, I believe they're pretty high?)

[Mr. Air]

Really beautiful guitar. I wish I was rich  :D

[dave_mc]

I've never tried any actual FGN branded guitars, but Fujigen guitars are excellent, really well made.  I see it has the "CFS" system, didn't know they were still using it. 

I'm not sure it's that much of a bargain, though, unless it's a particularly high spec model.  Add import charges and shipping costs onto that and you're probably getting close to £1,250 (I don't know what import costs are like in Brazil, I believe they're pretty high?)

+1

it seems to have a flamed veneer on top of plain maple. doesn't sound high spec at all, really. Now- being japanese it's probably still a really good guitar (like you, I've tried guitars made in the fujigen factory, mainly MIJ ibanezes, but no actual FGN-branded guitars), but that doesn't mean you want to pay way over the odds for it, either... :lol:

I mean I paid about a third of that for my edwards. which has the same pickups, lacquer top coat and everything (though the FGN might have an aluminium bridge). Granted, it's not 100% MIJ and I'm guessing the FGN is, but still.

[Philly Q]

The nearest comparisons I've owned, which are basically the same guitar, from the same factory, would be my Signature LP and Epiphone Japan LP Standard.

The Signature had a quilt veneer top, no nitro finish and was pretty cheap (a bargain, for sure).  The Epi has a slightly higher spec than the Sig, with a "lacquer"/nitro top coat and a plain solid maple top (no veneer, no posh flame/quilt figuring).  It doesn't have Seymour Duncans but, of course, it does legitimately carry the "Les Paul" name on the headstock.  That one did cost quite a lot, but I'm sure I paid way too much for it!  :roll: :lol:

Neither has the "Circle Fretting System", though, I don't know how much that adds to the value (or the complexity of the build).

[dave_mc]

me neither :lol:

[ericsabbath]

well, this is a higher spec model and in a limited colour
and the CFS system seems quite interesting
edwards are going for about US$1000 being built in china and only assembled in japan and have a mixed poly/nitro finish
a japan made fernandes or navigator are going for almost US$4000 new
a vintage greco eg1000 or 1200 are going up over $2000
so even considering the veneer thing, I wouldn't say that's overpriced for todays japan market standards
about the same as a new tokai ls98 and less than a ls140q
those tokais and most of the others have veneer tops as well

[dvorak]

That is very pretty indeed!  Do want!!

[dave_mc]

well, this is a higher spec model and in a limited colour
and the CFS system seems quite interesting
edwards are going for about US$1000 being built in china and only assembled in japan and have a mixed poly/nitro finish
a japan made fernandes or navigator are going for almost US$4000 new
a vintage greco eg1000 or 1200 are going up over $2000
so even considering the veneer thing, I wouldn't say that's overpriced for todays japan market standards
about the same as a new tokai ls98 and less than a ls140q
those tokais and most of the others have veneer tops as well

well sure (that one has a mixed poly/nitro finish too), but I mean if you ask me, the biggest reason for going MIJ (and I'm a total MIJ fan, like philly) pretty much doesn't exist any more (high quality guitars for really good prices), which sucks :(

[Philly Q]

well sure (that one has a mixed poly/nitro finish too), but I mean if you ask me, the biggest reason for going MIJ (and I'm a total MIJ fan, like philly) pretty much doesn't exist any more (high quality guitars for really good prices), which sucks :(

Yeah, I was looking at how much some of my more recently-acquired MIJ guitars had cost me and realised they were actually pretty stupidly expensive!  Of course I knew that at the time, but I was in the throes of GAS....  :?

That said, my '80s Burny LP Junior has a spec and build quality which is, genuinely, on a par with Gibson Custom (apart from pickup, electronics and nitro finish), and it was not much more than a third of the price.  So MIJ can still be (relatively) very good value.

[Dr.Pain]

I like my Epiphone Tribute +.  What a great guitar for peanuts.  :)

[dave_mc]

Yeah, I was looking at how much some of my more recently-acquired MIJ guitars had cost me and realised they were actually pretty stupidly expensive!  Of course I knew that at the time, but I was in the throes of GAS....  :?

That said, my '80s Burny LP Junior has a spec and build quality which is, genuinely, on a par with Gibson Custom (apart from pickup, electronics and nitro finish), and it was not much more than a third of the price.  So MIJ can still be (relatively) very good value.

Oh yeah, i mean you can still get good deals if you shop around/hold out for a good deal/find somewhere with new old stock (new) or go second-hand. Just the everyday going rate on new ones is getting a bit silly, if you ask me. I mean I went gibson with my last guitar (SG standard) because it was actually cheaper than a new MIJ tokai :lol: