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Too many to choose from
« on: November 10, 2013, 06:34:29 PM »
Looking for my second bkp set.

The first bkp I bought was a hd bridge and vhii neck for a thin and bright sounding guitar.
Both these pups work perfectly in that gtr, the hd really thickens the gtr nicely and I love the openness and vintage spongyness of the vhii.

I am having problems picking a set for my second gtr. Its a neck thru  with ebony board and Floydrrose. Its tone is more neutral and balanced. So far I have had in this gtr a sd dimebucker (lacks mid punch and mushy lows) and an emg 81 (a bit too bright).
I have been recommended an A-bomb but don't want to go too high output. Looking for a more dynamic natural sound that can still  grind and pull off some shred/metal. 

I think I want an alnico pup but needs to be quite tight on the low end because with the neck thru and Floyd rose the guitar can sometimes loose definition on the low strings.

Any ideas?

Thanks for any help

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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 06:46:52 PM »
The a bomb might work for you.  But I found mine to be overly bright personally.  And don't over look the vintage hot pickups
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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 07:25:30 PM »
Thanks for your response.
Yeah im trying to stay away from the a-bomb, don't know why. Just a feeling it might be too much for me now, looking for something a bit more subtle.

Definitely considering one of the vintage hot range. To be honest I have been  going backwards and forwards between the emerald, abraxes, rebel yell and crawler?  Haven't been able to settle on one yet, im not really sure how the different bkp compare?

Would like something that pairs well with the hd in my other guitar also.

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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2013, 07:39:28 PM »
Black Dog has some characteristics of the HD, like extra centermids. It's a tight pickup too.
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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 10:57:03 PM »
If you are looking to give that Floyd Rose a bit of a workout I would recommend either the Rebel Yell or (even though the bridge is ceramic) the Cold Sweat sets.

The Cold Sweat is not your typical ceramic pickup.  If you went for a Dimebucker I'm guessing you might like Dimebag's tone and the Cold Sweat is the BKP that gets you closest to that.  For cleans I like it better than the A-Bomb I had in the same guitar.
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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2013, 11:51:11 PM »
I assume your guitar is a maple neck-thru as that's most common with that design, in which case I'd certainly steer clear of the A-Bomb as that was awful in my maple neck-thru. I'd equally probably stay away from anything else that is either bright or has a lot of upper mids. The Emerald would certainly be too bright unless you like a really bright tone because I found it way too bright in a PRS SE Custom 24 which is mahogany so I imagine it would be even brighter in a maple neck-thru, especially with a Floyd. The Rebel Yell would be better but it still has a fair chunk of upper mids, though it's not quite as hairy as the A-Bomb. The Crawler would be a better bet as it has a strong bottom end with more lower mids so should sit well in a maple neck-thru. The same would apply to a Black Dog. Normally, the best suggestion for a maple neck-thru is the Miracle Man but as you're wanting a more vintage feel I'd say your best two options would be Crawler or Black Dog.
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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2013, 12:18:17 AM »
Looking for my second bkp set.

The first bkp I bought was a hd bridge and vhii neck for a thin and bright sounding guitar.
Both these pups work perfectly in that gtr, the hd really thickens the gtr nicely and I love the openness and vintage spongyness of the vhii.

I am having problems picking a set for my second gtr. Its a neck thru  with ebony board and Floydrrose. Its tone is more neutral and balanced. So far I have had in this gtr a sd dimebucker (lacks mid punch and mushy lows) and an emg 81 (a bit too bright).
I have been recommended an A-bomb but don't want to go too high output. Looking for a more dynamic natural sound that can still  grind and pull off some shred/metal. 

I think I want an alnico pup but needs to be quite tight on the low end because with the neck thru and Floyd rose the guitar can sometimes loose definition on the low strings.

Any ideas?

Thanks for any help

Im sure the nailbomb would be great and keep in mind it is lower in output than the holy diver.  Seems some people have had to negative experiences with it but by my experiences and how its described/marketed BKP its very dynamic and natural sounding.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2013, 12:23:53 AM by JimmyMoorby »

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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2013, 12:28:05 AM »
what about holy divers or even warpigs?
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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2013, 01:56:20 AM »
Already has a Holy Diver and wants to avoid the high-output pickups (see first post).

I tend to think that an A-Pig would work in this guitar, but I don't know if the OP would be happy with the neck pickup.

This does make me wonder though: has anyone had a neck Pig 90 made in a HSP-90 size, and did this sound much different from the Warpig neck humbucker?
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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2013, 02:14:40 AM »
Riff Raff, Mules, Black Dog, VHII's, Cold Sweat

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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2013, 09:17:33 AM »
If you are looking to give that Floyd Rose a bit of a workout I would recommend either the Rebel Yell or (even though the bridge is ceramic) the Cold Sweat sets.

so correct me If I`m wrong, some BKPs work better with Floyd than the others (of course apart from some extreme examples like Stormy Mondays or other truly vintage pups)?
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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2013, 09:27:22 AM »
If you are looking to give that Floyd Rose a bit of a workout I would recommend either the Rebel Yell or (even though the bridge is ceramic) the Cold Sweat sets.

so correct me If I`m wrong, some BKPs work better with Floyd than the others (of course apart from some extreme examples like Stormy Mondays or other truly vintage pups)?

No, I'm just suggesting that those pickups will hit those Dimebag style squeals real good :)

I'm sure others might work too, just that they don't have as much output.  Of course the Miracle Man might be even more so, but the OP isn't looking to go that hot.
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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2013, 12:52:02 PM »
Thanks for all the advice guys.
Im at work at the mo but I'll do my best to reply to all the suggestions.  All very helpful, cheers.

Yup I used to love dimebags playing (still do) and if it was 5-10years ago I would have been all over the cold sweat or MM. Today its fair to say I've mellowed a bit but still enjoy the occasional squeal thrown in for good measure :-).

The guitar in question is indeed a maple neck thru but definitely isn't as bright as my other guitar with the hd.

It would seem my choice is between the Rebel yell vs crawler/black dog? This is good.

I like the smoothness of the hd in my other guitar but was thinking to offset that by adding the extra bite of the rebel yell? I think im leaning towards the rebel yell at the moment and the extra tightness in the bass could work.

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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2013, 03:16:04 PM »
Well after much thought I think im going to get the rebel yell set with burnt chrome covers.
I'm sure I won't be disappointed.

Just wondering how the rebel yell neck compares to the vhii neck?
Also how well do rebel yells split?

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Re: Too many to choose from
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2013, 10:46:27 PM »
Well after much thought I think im going to get the rebel yell set with burnt chrome covers.
I'm sure I won't be disappointed.

Just wondering how the rebel yell neck compares to the vhii neck?
Also how well do rebel yells split?

I've never read a bad review of a RY set.  Apparently the RY neck is like the Cold Sweat neck (which I do own, and can recommend) but with some VHII character in there too, so I think you will be happy.  Apparently you can get a really nice Randy Rhoads sound out of the RY, which appeals to me.

I seem to remember someone saying that the RY splits okay.  Generally as you go up in output splitting becomes more viable, and the RY is definitely a fairly hot pickup, not as hot as a Nailbomb, Crawler, or Holy Diver but hotter than a Cold Sweat.  I haven't tried splitting my Cold Sweat but I've read a lot of reviews about the other three splitting very well.
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