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Re: Why?
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2013, 05:01:36 PM »


Labella String gauges: .009, .012, .015, .022, .030, .040, .054, .074 .090, .110
that`s what you call madness! 9th string is 110, just wondering how you play it, with your thumb or fingers just like the bass players do?  :lol: Put some active EMG into it and that beast will spread an apocalypse through your speakers, no joke.
That`s far way too much for me, seriously.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2013, 05:04:02 PM »


Labella String gauges: .009, .012, .015, .022, .030, .040, .054, .074 .090, .110
9th string is 110, 

10th string. I wonder if these actually sell....
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Re: Why?
« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2013, 05:27:18 PM »
Well I personally have not tried 8 or more strings, so I can't really comment on those too much. But that Skrillex cover was pretty cool. Very energetic playing.

I only stick to 6 and 7 strings so far. 7 can be quite cool I find, be it for extra big clean chords, adding a little something to existing riffs (intro riff to Cowboys from Hell you where you slide down from the high part to the low part...I can do that on the low part too) or just playing further with the range. To me it is not revolutionary, but being able to have an extended range can be quite cool. When I play the vers and chorus to "Down from the Sky" by Trivium most notes are played on the normal 6 string range, but some go lower, which really gives them an impact. Plus I also have to go up to high E over the 12th, so I am using the range.

The way a lot of people seem to play them is to me actually a overuse of the extra string, when they play it mainly. In that case a lot of them might just as well tune down a 6 string. I prefer to mainly play it as a 6 string, since that is very possible and comfortable and do some lower notes, which reserves the impact. Dunno if you see what I am getting at...

On the bass side things work easier a lot of times. Still many people who should rather just downtune, but cool guys out there too. One of my favs which I like is the guy from Unexpect. Weird music, yes but I like it. That guy plays a 9 string bass, not guitar and does a lot of tapping. Of course he also goes into guitar range, but he works with the guitar parts and delivers a different sound. This video a quite a good example. Guitar is not loud enough, but you get the idea. I think that utilisation sounds quite cool.
http://youtu.be/qLeXaxlSbc8
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Re: Why?
« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2013, 06:02:00 PM »

The way a lot of people seem to play them is to me actually a overuse of the extra string, when they play it mainly. In that case a lot of them might just as well tune down a 6 string. I prefer to mainly play it as a 6 string, since that is very possible and comfortable and do some lower notes, which reserves the impact. Dunno if you see what I am getting at...

http://youtu.be/qLeXaxlSbc8

Makes total sense to me. That's why I don't understand why people get confused over 7's. It means I can have the grunt of the low string (A in my case) when needed but still full functionality of a 6string without loosing range.

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Re: Why?
« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2013, 06:51:39 PM »

The way a lot of people seem to play them is to me actually a overuse of the extra string, when they play it mainly. In that case a lot of them might just as well tune down a 6 string. I prefer to mainly play it as a 6 string, since that is very possible and comfortable and do some lower notes, which reserves the impact. Dunno if you see what I am getting at...

http://youtu.be/qLeXaxlSbc8

Makes total sense to me. That's why I don't understand why people get confused over 7's. It means I can have the grunt of the low string (A in my case) when needed but still full functionality of a 6string without loosing range.
Well you said it better than me.^^

I would think the same thing can apply to 8 or 9 strings, but the abuse is even more common there.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2013, 07:09:04 PM »
10th string. I wonder if these actually sell....

Woohhaaa, I haven`t even noticed that it`s actualy 10 string guitar, was too much focused on the photo than counting  :lol:

If they don`t sell sets like that you can also ask your bass player from your band to help you out.


On the other hand, you have to be careful when picking 7,8 string guitar. You have to be confident and pretty sure about the music you wanna play.
I know one guy in my vicinity who has 7 string one while playing most vintage, classic rock/hard rock stuff mostly on 6 strings. After a while he took off that extra string due to the fact it was making the whole playing uncomfortable a bit `cause he was accidentally hitting that added string. Don`t know if that issue is common or not but it gives you an idea.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2013, 08:31:04 PM »
3) When people can make a good use of those extra strings and actually make music why not? I wouldn`t even go as far as 8 string to be honest but take a look at this guy Fracionado. He plays 8 strings (I know it`s only 8, not 9 :D) but he does brilliant job in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpi0w3wPE3M


Clearly I have a mental block with this. I wasn't impressed at all.  :(
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Re: Why?
« Reply #52 on: December 28, 2013, 08:35:03 PM »
3) When people can make a good use of those extra strings and actually make music why not? I wouldn`t even go as far as 8 string to be honest but take a look at this guy Fracionado. He plays 8 strings (I know it`s only 8, not 9 :D) but he does brilliant job in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpi0w3wPE3M


Clearly I have a mental block with this. I wasn't impressed at all.  :(
Well one does not have to like it, taste is always a thing, but I feel like it is very good from the technical side of things and would not be possible with 4 strings, which was the main point to me.
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Re: Why?
« Reply #53 on: December 29, 2013, 08:06:49 AM »
One thing no one has mentioned is how much of a bugger it is to bend a high E string on a 28+ inch scale, on my 8 string it takes twice as much force to bend a whole tone

No one has mentioned that the skillex cover could have been performed on a downtuned 7 either, even Meshuggah the band who made 8 strings popular only have 1 song that uses the full range of the instrument, granted it lets them play older songs without swapping guitars on stage

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Re: Why?
« Reply #54 on: December 29, 2013, 12:59:43 PM »
No one has mentioned that the skillex cover could have been performed on a downtuned 7 either, even Meshuggah the band who made 8 strings popular only have 1 song that uses the full range of the instrument, granted it lets them play older songs without swapping guitars on stage

Well, he's never used the high e string, so no need even for a 7 string guitar.
Actually, I think you can get away with a standard 6 tuning, playing the chords G - Eb - C like this:
D|-5-|-1-|-5-|
A|-5-|-1-|-3-|
E|-3-|-x-|-3-|
And for those low F#-G notes one could always use a Whammy pedal (or a tremolo bar if practice enough) dropping it an octave.

With few exceptions, I think the primary use of 8 string guitars by the masses is to show how Deathcore/Djent/Prog/etc they are.