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For a Santana meets Trey Anastasio tone...
« on: March 15, 2006, 02:21:40 AM »
How would an Abraxas in the bridge and an Emerald in the neck sound?  I am in the planning stage of building a Warmoth guitar, and it will be a Koa Semi-hollowbody with coil taps.  I'd like a warm Sanatana lead tone with enough mids to stay bright and crunchy when I roll off the gain.  Thanks.
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Re: For a Santana meets Trey Anastasio tone...
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2006, 12:43:05 PM »
Man, first somebody looking for Garcia tone, now this ....
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How would an Abraxas in the bridge and an Emerald in the neck sound?  I am in the planning stage of building a Warmoth guitar, and it will be a Koa Semi-hollowbody with coil taps.  I'd like a warm Sanatana lead tone with enough mids to stay bright and crunchy when I roll off the gain.  Thanks.

Welcome to BKP, jam-loving brothers! :)  Anyway ....

For Santana tones: Abraxas. 'Nuff said!  As for Trey, he uses Schaller Golden 50 pickups, which as I understand it are supposed to be very PAF-like (~8.2k in the bridge and ~7.4k in the neck, I believe).  I'd not hesitate to pick the Mule as an appropriate BKP here.

Honestly, I think you'd probably be good going with with either a Mule set or Abraxas set.  The Abraxas is, as I understand it, voiced much like the Mule, only hotter than a true PAF-style.  It's like a "Mule+".  For another, option: If I recall aright, Trey uses the neck pup a lot for cleaner sounds, so you could put an Abraxas in the bridge and a Mule in the neck.

Either way, I think a Mule or Abraxas in the neck will get you closer to where you want to go than an Emerald in the neck.

When I was choosing pups for my LP, Trey and Santana tones were two of my major touchstones.  I also wanted the ability to take my sound up into a more metal zone, doing Iommi and Kyuss and Roy Z kind of tones, so I went with a Crawler set.  A Crawler neck is actually the same as an Abraxas neck (and I need those Santana neck tones!), but the bridge has a bit more grunt and midrange; it's got vintage vibe but is moving a bit further of that feel than the Abraxas.  But if I were Trey, I'd get Mules; if I were Santana, I'd get Abraxases.  I think a set of either or a combo of these is what I'd consider in your case.
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For a Santana meets Trey Anastasio tone...
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2006, 07:34:20 PM »
Not sure I'd put an Emerald in the neck, it'd be too thick sounding(assuming you're on about the emerald bridge).........an Emerald neck however would be fine, it's stil AV but a more open wind.
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2006, 08:45:19 PM »
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Not sure I'd put an Emerald in the neck, it'd be too thick sounding(assuming you're on about the emerald bridge).........an Emerald neck however would be fine, it's stil AV but a more open wind.


I don't think that's very clear to us......

I think you mean an Abraxis set??
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2006, 10:33:44 PM »
What Tim is saying is that you should use the Emerald Neck pickup from a calibrated set in the neck position.  If you just order an Emerald, you will get the Bridge pickup, which is not a good pickup to use in the neck position.
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2006, 09:53:04 AM »
How does the Emerald neck compare to the Abraxas and Mule necks?  I think the Product Description pages still have just bridge statistics.
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