looking for the right pedal. help?

[Plenum n Heather]

A 50w amp is a 50w amp.. No pedal will change that :/

This is true, but a clean boost in the fx loop can give you a massive volume jump. Putting a boost in front of the amp will only add more gain.

However, my first port of call would be to suggest more efficient loudspeakers; every 3dB of efficiency doubles your effective wattage. Clean boost in the fx loop would be my second stop...

[Dave Sloven]

a clean boost in the fx loop can give you a massive volume jump. Putting a boost in front of the amp will only add more gain.

This is true.  I have one of these in the loop powered by 18V and it does provide a big boost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKRCyP56hNc

[juansolo]

A 50w amp is a 50w amp.. No pedal will change that :/

This is true, but a clean boost in the fx loop can give you a massive volume jump. Putting a boost in front of the amp will only add more gain.

However, my first port of call would be to suggest more efficient loudspeakers; every 3dB of efficiency doubles your effective wattage. Clean boost in the fx loop would be my second stop...

Yup, 50W should be easily loud enough to be heard. There's an issue somewhere and it's likely the speakers.

[Toe-Knee]

My friend just picked up a 50 watt Marshall jcm900 and it sounds great but it's having some trouble keeping up with the rest of the band volume wise.  Is there any sort of boost pedal he could use to give him some more volume and help tighten up his tone a bit and get rid of some flub? He doesn't have a ton of money either so cheaper options are preferred

This amp should be insanely loud & Cutting. It sounds like there is some kind of issue with the amp to me.

[littleredguitars2]

i really dont think theres an issue with the head at all. like i said the room is really bizarre. super small and completely and i mean completely covered in wood paneling. so sounds work a little weird in there too. but yeah, maybe theres a quality issue when it comes to his cab. unfortunately i doubt he'll have the funds for a while to be able to afford a new cab.

[Telerocker]

Maybe the rest can play a little less loud.

[juansolo]

Maybe the rest can play a little less loud.

I tried this logic once with a friend at a rehearsal where the PA wasn't loud enough. They all looked at me as if I was mental and instead suggested we re-convene and they'd bring a louder PA...

[richard]

I've used a few 50 watt JCM 900's, both combos and heads and I've always thought they are the quietest 50w amps I've ever come across. I had a Laney VC50 that seemed about twice as loud and the 30w Cornford I use now can easily out-volume them. If the amp is flat out there's nowhere else to go. It sound like you're playing way too loud for a small room.

[Alex]

I've used a few 50 watt JCM 900's, both combos and heads and I've always thought they are the quietest 50w amps I've ever come across. I had a Laney VC50 that seemed about twice as loud and the 30w Cornford I use now can easily out-volume them. If the amp is flat out there's nowhere else to go. It sound like you're playing way too loud for a small room.

True, I had one and it isn't the loudest amp, but it's a bit of a mid-range saw so it shouldn't be the root of the problem. It's still plenty loud.

[Telerocker]

Maybe the rest can play a little less loud.

I tried this logic once with a friend at a rehearsal where the PA wasn't loud enough. They all looked at me as if I was mental and instead suggested we re-convene and they'd bring a louder PA...

With a PA it's hard to mix a balanced bandsound when everybody plays loud like hell. It's also a learning process to keep a reasonable volume on stage, but it sounds so much better for the audience.

[MrBump]

Just out of interest, can you damage a modern amp by sticking a boot pedal with a lot of gain in the FX loop?