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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2016, 09:53:44 PM »
Good choice. Hope you like it.

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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2016, 04:20:24 AM »
I think it will add in that extra 'balls' that you've been missing.  If not I would look at other things, like fiddling around with the hardware or the rest of the electronics, but I think you should find that it works given that you've been 'close' with other BKPs

It's also the closest one to George Lynch
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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2016, 10:26:16 AM »
It's also the closest one to George Lynch

Wow, these are serious words!! Once I asked the BKP's guys which pickup will get me into Lynch ballpark and they told me Holydiver. I had some HDs and it's true that you get this thick modern soloing sound that is really close to George Lynch, but I felt that HD sings, it can be aggresive but it's not an angry pickup, while for me George Lynch gets this same full and singing sound closer screaming. But then I thought I cannot expect to put a pickup in a guitar and just sound as George Lynch. Actually, there's a youtube video with George Lynch playing a Telecaster, and it sounds like George Lynch. So I assumed that the edge I was missing in the HD is not in the pickup but in my fingers.

Anyway, it would be interesting see how the miracle man compares to HD.
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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2016, 12:14:36 PM »
The question of Lynch's tone has come up a few times on this forum (do a quick search for 'George Lynch') and Jon from Feline Guitars has consistently made a pretty good case for the Miracle Man being the safest bet.
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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2016, 11:45:59 AM »
And what about neck pickup? Warpig neck in this ibanez was not a shredder's dream. It was not enough articulate/tight. Surprisingly, specs of warpig neck an Miracle Man neck are similar. Are they close sounding? I have a explorer with Painkillers, and i like the Painkiller neck in this guitar but being the explorer the opposite king of guitar I don't know how it will sound. The other option, praised everywhere as the dream shredder's neck pickup is the cold sweat neck. Which one will match the Miracle Man in this guitar? Any other options, thoughts?
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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2016, 11:53:44 AM »
The warpig sounded surprisingly not thick, not bass/low mids heavy. I would like a thick neck pickup and I don't mind about cleans in this guitar. Other option I'ver red about is the VhII neck; close to the cold sweat but thicker.
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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2016, 12:13:20 PM »
Cold Sweat is a good match for the MM bridge.

You could also use the MM neck but it is considerably hotter.
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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2016, 12:55:33 PM »
And how would you compare de VHII neck to the cold sweat? Hearing he clips in the BKP page I would say that the VHII is thicker while the CS is leaner in the  midrange.
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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2016, 02:06:58 PM »
I haven't used the VHII set at all so I'll let others comment on how they compare.  I'm pretty sure a few people here have used both.
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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2016, 10:10:30 AM »
Finally after exchanging some emails with Ben, I've decided for the Painkiller neck. I'm not looking for versatility nor cleans, just  a thick neck solo sound. I have a Painkiller set in a explorer and I love the neck pickup. It's the same fluid neck solo sound but with extra cut and aggresion. Let's see how it works in this guitar.
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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2016, 11:13:28 AM »
I will always vote for the Miracle Man bridge option for what I consider prime George Lynch tones ...Dokken era (Under Lock and Key & Back for the Attack)

Neck HBs ... 3 choices for me
Cold Sweat neck - lower gain and bluesy , and good cleans
Miracle Man neck - fat and ballsy but good shred pickup (not surprisingly think Zakk Wylde)
Painkiller neck - a bit more cutting due to it's ceramic magnet - nice metallic sounding option
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Re: Ibanez rgt: soft attack, thin sounding... solutions?
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2016, 08:29:16 AM »
I will always vote for the Miracle Man bridge option for what I consider prime George Lynch tones ...Dokken era (Under Lock and Key & Back for the Attack)

That's great news! That means it is not as mid scooped as I thought. That explains why some people put MM and HD almost in the same ballpark.


Neck HBs ... 3 choices for me
Cold Sweat neck - lower gain and bluesy , and good cleans
Miracle Man neck - fat and ballsy but good shred pickup (not surprisingly think Zakk Wylde)
Painkiller neck - a bit more cutting due to it's ceramic magnet - nice metallic sounding option
I wanted something powerful in the neck. I was between PK and MM  I found the warpig neck in my guitar way too loose and having MM and WP almost same specs, I decided for the tightness and cut of the PK. Ben told me that despite similar DC resistance and magnet, the increased bass response of the WP (due to the double screw row) is different from the MM.
Les Paul Custom: HD set
Les Paul standard: RY (b)/ Mule (n)
Gibson Explorer: PK set
Fender strat: HD (b), IT (m,n)
Ibanez RGT220ANTF: MM(b)/ PK(n)
Charvel EVH art series: HD