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« Reply #60 on: June 03, 2005, 06:58:51 PM »
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« Reply #61 on: June 11, 2005, 12:23:22 PM »
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I'm in the process of redesigning the pickup descriptions both for the website and for a brochure. What would you find most useful in the descriptions:
applications< suggested positions<suitability to different timbers<comparitive power ratings etc>
Let me know!


i think suitability to different timbers would be good, seeing as different woods give off different sounds :D Also the idea about the different pickups in different styles of guitars seems like a good idea to me!

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« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2005, 12:00:55 PM »
I find the most important info concerns the actual method of wiring.Quite often just being left to sort out the correct wires and pots can cause a decent pick-up doomed to failure.

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« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2005, 03:16:11 PM »
I like the body wood idea, but not the "suitabile for whatever style", that might "pigeon hole" people's expectations of the pickup. There again it may be an excellent guide. :?:

How about online registration of pickups?
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« Reply #64 on: June 13, 2005, 10:19:53 AM »
I don't know a lot about the details of pickup construction (though that sort of thing is probably useful serious gear nuts!) but I do know something about what kind of sound I want to hear coming out when I pluck a string :).

I guess most people looking to get new pups have a tone in their head they want to hear, or a particular disatisfaction with their existing tone they are looking to doctor. They'll say "I've got a Strat and am seeking an SRV kinda tone (with maybe a bit more low end)" or "my stock humbuckers lack definition at high gain" or something. Presumably you designers have a similar feeling that leads you design the pickup in the first place -- if you already had what you wanted, you wouldn't need to make something new! :)

I wouldn't want to get hung up on "suitable for style X" descriptions, but it's useful when scanning over a wide range of pickups; it's obviously useful to get a sense of "we were thinking about X kinda sounds when we designed this". The names are kind of a guide here, and I think knowing why you BKP guys designed a particular pickup will tell me much more than "this pickup is suitable for metal" or something generic like that.

Obviously, the amp and the fingers are a big component of any tone, on beyond the guitar and pickup, but as a person shopping for pickups, I'm interested in knowing about things like their relative outputs (in case I'm not getting 2 pickups of the same model), where the emphases are in terms of highs/lows/mids, and how the definition is at different leavels of gain, how things differ in bridge or neck or whatever -- the chart with info for different guitar body materials (Gibson LP/SG types, Strat types, PRS types, etc.) looks pretty useful in this context.

I've understand the dissatisfaction some people have mentioned about pickup clips where the same riff is played through different pickups, but I think I have to disagree to some extent -- I think it would very useful to hear very short clips that did some very brief chord and lead work (just a few chords or notes) of different pickups on clean and dirt for a given guitar and very vanilla amp (or amp sim). I've been sticking different BKP MP3 clips in my machine's iTunes so I can A-B the clips get a stronger sense for the sounds (though I spend a lot of time wondering about how the guitar body or amp settings affect the tone -- so in this case the clips Tim did of the Mule and Nailbomb and whatnot all at a similar time with similar amp settings are pretty useful!).  Maybe this kind of sample comparison would be most useful for pickups that seem more closely "related"; I'm at least less likely to be wondering which of the Country Boy tele pup or the Warpig humbucker are best suited for my guitar :) but I might want a better understanding of the nuances diffentiating the Warpig vs. Miracle Man, or the Country Boy vs. The Boss.

Mmm, enough rambling! I'm just another musician (very slack musician, in this case :)) trying to figure out how to best upgrade his hardware to get a sound more like he wants.  I'm sure once I've lurked enough, listened enough, and asked enough dumb questions I'll have a better idea :)

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« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2005, 05:40:42 PM »
Thanks for the input Carl-keep it coming guys, there's some good ideas coming out.
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« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2005, 06:15:30 PM »
How about some sort of computer program on the website wich can guide you to the right pickup. By answering a number of multiple choise questions. Questions like: what kind of guitar, what kind of wood, music styles, sort of tone etc. After finishing all the questions you'll end up with a small number of pickups wich might suit.

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« Reply #67 on: June 13, 2005, 06:22:21 PM »
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How about some sort of computer program on the website wich can guide you to the right pickup...

(Nice job for Ol)


Thanks! :wallbash:  :D:D

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« Reply #68 on: June 13, 2005, 09:12:04 PM »
Or, now get this one for innovativeness...

..why don't people who want to buy the BKP's, ask current users and owners of BKP's what the pickups sound like through the forum.

On that note, anyone got clips of the Trilogy Suites?

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« Reply #69 on: June 13, 2005, 09:14:46 PM »
I've not got the trilogies loaded in a strat anymore, took teh middle and put it in my Nailbomb RG.  They're very similar to teh Uber Single coils that Hayden's got. There's a little solo using the trilogies in one of my demos I did for Keeley, somewher on the players forum.
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« Reply #70 on: June 13, 2005, 09:16:32 PM »
Quote from: bucketshred
Or, now get this one for innovativeness...

..why don't people who want to buy the BKP's, ask current users and owners of BKP's what the pickups sound like through the forum.

On that note, anyone got clips of the Trilogy Suites?

Andy!


That was the general idea behind the forum-get you all self educating, finding out who's got what etc

I think both HJM and Hayden have posted Trilogy clips in the players room-UBERcoils are Trilogy Suite coils.
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« Reply #71 on: June 13, 2005, 09:19:30 PM »
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That was the general idea behind the forum-get you all self educating, finding out who's got what etc


With the side effect that we all drive eachother nuts and want to buy more BKP's. :twisted:
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« Reply #72 on: June 13, 2005, 09:40:24 PM »
That's the plan my evil henchman :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :lol:  


Seriously though I wanted to get more feedback from players to back up my own player's intuition(Cue TNT track)and follow what was going on better.
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« Reply #73 on: June 13, 2005, 09:58:55 PM »
It's great to see a company that's close to it's customers. Keeps customers loyal.

I've only been to the local Mustang garage two times plus one meeting they organized and they already know me by name. I like that a lot.

I bet Joe Naylor still knows me too as one of his first Wolfman customers.

Will you be at any Dutch guitar shows, Tim?
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« Reply #74 on: June 13, 2005, 10:05:55 PM »
What,when,where are they?
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