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"Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« on: May 23, 2016, 05:20:56 PM »
With my melodic rock band, FM RADIO, I am the entire band: live guitar & Arturia Beatstep Pro providing drums, bass, and synth. That's a lot to carry! So, my biggest issue is always space and convenience. To that end, I re-addressed my live situation and scaled down the pedals whilst scaling UP the amp wattage.

My previous setup was using the Studio 2 with the amp well into breakup and then just adding thickness and additional gain, as well as compression/modulation/delay with pedals. I used a Rapid Fire looper to switch between 2 flavours of gain: crunchy drive with the Bogner Uberschall and MXR micro flange and heavy drive with the Empress Heavy and strymon DECO. I used the Heavy Electronics Descend to clean the tone up.



That, unfortunately has three drawbacks:
One, it is a lot to carry
Two, it is a lot to troubleshoot should something go wrong
Three, the amp simply doesn't cover it live without adding a second one

So, I switched to my Bumbox Cielo which is essentially a JMP50 with reverb (the reverb is valve-driven and can be taken out of the circuit for additional gain.

I then revisited my pedal selection from scratch and rebuilt the board using my Pedaltrain Nano.

First up was my base tone: I wanted to keep the tone of the Cielo but give it a touch more focus and cut some of the overhang off (this amp has a LOT of bass response; you could easily use it as a bass amp).

Drive pedals I own: Way Huge Green Rhino, Xotic BB Preamp, JCollocia Horus

The Horus was the best one for my needs: totally transparent but it added just a hint of girth and focus to the tone. This pedal is now discontinued but I am always pleasantly surprised with how great it sounds.

Next up was increasing the gain from mild breakup to crunch (the Bumbox is capable of a very nice crunch tone, but at the expense of blistering volume; it's easier to just do it this way).

Boost pedals I own: Thundertomate Fat Boost, Catalinbread Naga Viper, AnalogMan Beano Boost, Greer Sweetback Driver, zvex SHO, Bogner Harlow

I tried all of them after the Horus and they all did the job well, but the one that fit the best was the SHO; the SHO is a fantastic pedal; it adds lots of sustain and creates a HUGE guitar tone. It is far from transparent, but complemented the Horus really well.

To be honest, I can gig with just the Horus/SHO combination; it's 90%+ of the tone I was after. But, I still had 2 slots open on the Nano, and I need more gain for metally bits and solos. So, I was looking for light modulation.

I don't have many modulation pedals: strymon DECO, MXR Script 90, Maestro PH1, Mooer chorus, MXR micro flange.

The DECO was selected, but I really learned a lot about its character with this more bare sonic setup: DECO has a VERY soft knee; it begins clamping down on the transients immediately and the overall effect is a softening of the leading edge of the tone; I compensated for this by bringing up the HOT preamp on the Bumbox. I added just a touch of lag to widen the sound but otherwise left the pedal at unity gain and just let it do the tape saturation/compression thing.

For the second gain stage, I revisited all of my remaining boost and distortion pedals (MXR distortion+ along with all the others mentioned). They all added varying amounts of insane metal style distortion with all of the other pedals in front! I particularly liked the sound of the Beano Boost here: the tone was VERY close to my Splawn QuickRod. However, it was entirely too noisy and created howling feedback ... plus, I have no need for that much distortion. :) So, in the end I went with the Harlow, set the boost low and let the Neve transformer do most of the work.

End result: Pretty huge guitar tone, I must say. Clips soon.

Amp settings:




Pedal settings:


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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2016, 01:00:59 AM »
That sounds pretty cool.  I knew you had a small Bumbox amp, 5 watts i think?  Didn't know about this 50 watter.  I'm guessing the Hot and Fat controls work like vol I and II on a non master Marshall, and therefore, with a master volume, it's like the body and detail knobs on a Vintage Modern?  The Horus sounds like a great pedal, a pity they're discontinued.  Of all the boosts you mention, the one I have is the Thunder Tomate, which is awesome.  I have a clone of the SHO, which has more boost than any sane person would ever need! :)
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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2016, 02:11:16 AM »
Ha, yeah -- I cannot imagine needing to go beyond 12 o'clock with the SHO lol.

I was able to track some guitars for a songwriting demo using this setup, so here's what it sounds like:

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This is the only Bumbox I own; my 5-watter is a Lil Dawg. I am pretty chuffed over the tone! Supposedly the new Id overdrive is an improvement over the Horus, but I have no desire to trade it in and take that chance lol.

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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2016, 02:39:46 AM »
ah, clearly i misremembered the amp :)

that sounds pretty good, I'm definitely a fan of the old school sounds you tend to go for
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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2016, 01:56:07 PM »
Oh , forgot to mention; yes the Bumbox volumes act like an internally jumped NMV Marshall; the Master volume is actually power scaled, so the output is always 100%, the knob just has variable wattage output...
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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2016, 11:00:04 AM »
Sounds cool. I'll check the clip out if I ever get my PC back!

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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2016, 11:56:05 AM »
Ha, recording it next month. Let's see if you get to it before it's mixed. =p

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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2016, 11:12:59 PM »
Made some tweaks to the setup today:

Replaced the Swamp Thang with a Wizard. Replaced the LP clone with a Strat. Rest is the same.

Made some tweaks to the setup today:

Replaced the Swamp Thang with a Wizard. Replaced the LP clone with a Strat. Rest is the same.

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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2016, 01:20:05 PM »
I ended up swapping out the SSL-1 I had in the bridge of my Strat with a Dimarzio HS-3.  Clips soon!

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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2016, 03:16:16 PM »
I ended up swapping out the SSL-1 I had in the bridge of my Strat with a Dimarzio HS-3.  Clips soon!

Wonder how the HS-3 compares. I've tried the Area 67 and really like it in the neck, I have it in a couple of guitars. I also have a Virtual Solo fitted in the bridge of one strat - its fat, organic and stratty. I also tried an Injector bridge in the past but thought the Virtual Solo was more my thing.
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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2016, 07:08:59 PM »
Not very Stratty. Compressed and very metal sounding.
Serioulsy, it sounds like the 80s lol. I love it.
Output is not hot but the level is if that makes sense -- more push/crunch but not necessarily LOUDER.  It's dead quiet.
It reminds me of my old Joe Bardens but more scooped in the mids. Nice top end, but had to turn presence down and treble up. That smoothed it right up.
I guess it sounds a lot like the Trilogy Suite, but less open and dynamic.

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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2016, 05:59:43 PM »
Update: Made a couple of minor tweaks to the board, and opened up another space for ... something. New pedal configuration is:

z.vex SHO > strymon DECO > Bogner Ubershcall

Here's a video of the current setup. This was played live, so no post-production.

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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2016, 04:59:59 PM »
Update: Made a couple of minor tweaks to the board, and opened up another space for ... something. New pedal configuration is:

z.vex SHO > strymon DECO > Bogner Ubershcall

Here's a video of the current setup. This was played live, so no post-production.

VIDEO LINK

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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2016, 11:51:09 AM »
Ha, thanks! Headphones were threatening to fall off my head the whole time!
I move around a lot whether recording (audience of zero) or live lol.

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Re: "Simplifying" my pedal board -- gig board v2
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2016, 10:23:03 PM »
The board continues to elvolve as my requirements do. I need to add a Ditto looper to the board, so the Uberschall was replaced with the BB Preamp; I also added the MXR Script 90. Also used my Thinline on this one.

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