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Re: Telecaster HH pickups: chunky, defined high-gain bridge + liquid neck
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2016, 08:21:25 AM »
Yeah, I like a lot of chug; but it sounds like with some of the higher output pickups, the chugging sounds compressed and lacks character. Does that make sense?

I've re-read your original post to see if I missed anything and there's nothing in there that would suggest an Abraxas to me as the first, second or even third choice.

'I may try tuning the Telecaster down to Drop C' - The Abraxas certainly isn't known as a pickup for lowered tunings, partly because it's not quite bright enough and partly because it's not tight enough.

'I use a lot of palm-muting, string muting and harmonics. I'm a big fan of Adam Jones from Tool' - I'm not saying the Abraxas can't do this but there are a myriad of pickups that are more likely to get that sort of tone for you.

'My playing borders on DJent' - I've never heard of anyone using an Abraxas for this style before, largely because there are so many pickups in the range that would do it better.

'I love really defined, powerful sounds' - Well, all Bare Knuckle pickups are pretty defined and powerful compared to most stock pickups but again 'really defined' and 'powerful' aren't phrases you immediately associate with an Abraxas as so many others fit the description better.

'Good cleans are important' - You'd certainly get that with an Abraxas

'plenty of upper mids' - No, that's definitely not an Abraxas at all.

Now I'm aware that it sounds like I'm knocking the Abraxas and I'm not. It's a fine pickup that encapsulates many of the characteristics I love in a pickup and I'm not saying it can't do what you're after because, to a greater or lesser extent, every pickup in the BKP range can do what you want, BUT I am saying that based on what you stated you wanted, there are better options. Kiichi would know better than me but I'm thinking that you might even like a P90 instead of a humbucker for what you're after. However, the bottom line is it's your money and if that's what you feel is right for you then I hope it's good enough for you.
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Re: Telecaster HH pickups: chunky, defined high-gain bridge + liquid neck
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2016, 04:02:49 AM »
I would even be tempted to suggest an A-Hawk or Aftermath here
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Re: Telecaster HH pickups: chunky, defined high-gain bridge + liquid neck
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2016, 02:48:02 PM »
Yeah, I like a lot of chug; but it sounds like with some of the higher output pickups, the chugging sounds compressed and lacks character. Does that make sense?

I've re-read your original post to see if I missed anything and there's nothing in there that would suggest an Abraxas to me as the first, second or even third choice.

'I may try tuning the Telecaster down to Drop C' - The Abraxas certainly isn't known as a pickup for lowered tunings, partly because it's not quite bright enough and partly because it's not tight enough.

'I use a lot of palm-muting, string muting and harmonics. I'm a big fan of Adam Jones from Tool' - I'm not saying the Abraxas can't do this but there are a myriad of pickups that are more likely to get that sort of tone for you.

'My playing borders on DJent' - I've never heard of anyone using an Abraxas for this style before, largely because there are so many pickups in the range that would do it better.

'I love really defined, powerful sounds' - Well, all Bare Knuckle pickups are pretty defined and powerful compared to most stock pickups but again 'really defined' and 'powerful' aren't phrases you immediately associate with an Abraxas as so many others fit the description better.

'Good cleans are important' - You'd certainly get that with an Abraxas

'plenty of upper mids' - No, that's definitely not an Abraxas at all.

Now I'm aware that it sounds like I'm knocking the Abraxas and I'm not. It's a fine pickup that encapsulates many of the characteristics I love in a pickup and I'm not saying it can't do what you're after because, to a greater or lesser extent, every pickup in the BKP range can do what you want, BUT I am saying that based on what you stated you wanted, there are better options. Kiichi would know better than me but I'm thinking that you might even like a P90 instead of a humbucker for what you're after. However, the bottom line is it's your money and if that's what you feel is right for you then I hope it's good enough for you.
The Stockholm does tick some boxes for sure. The Djent part is the thing I know least about. Also the bridge does not deliver great cleans, but that is not really shocking.
What the SH would do is deliver a brutally raw and agressive sound with great definition delivered in that unique P90 way that carries the force of a HB with some of the character of a SC. Harmonics and all work so bloody well, that is for sure. Defined and powerful for sure. Agressive palm mutes and all that jazz is also there. In a tele it should carry is all out well.

To also get the cleans one could pair it with a MQ neck. Powerful enough to keep up and capable of a lot of things, including great cleans. Can give you a lot of that SC sparkle and bottom end definition while being fuller and warmer. Reacts brilliantly to that post breakup clean too where it really shows its character.

It certainly have a look at the SH / MQ combo. See if that sound appeals to you. IŽd say it is often overlooked, even though here P90s lately have found some love. Should have some reviews in the sticky here too. Not many, but something to give an overview.
BKPs in use: 10th set / RY set / Holy Diver b, Emerald n / Crawler bridge, Slowhand mid MQ neck/ Manhattan n
On the sidelines: Stockholm b / Suppermassive n, Mule n, AM set, IT mid

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Re: Telecaster HH pickups: chunky, defined high-gain bridge + liquid neck
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2016, 03:48:55 PM »
Thanks Kiichi  :smiley:

I wasn't sure if I was right but it seemed to me that all of the humbuckers that will do what he wants, don't have the 'character' he's also after and those that do have more 'character' aren't ideal for the style he wants. It seemed to me that a P90 set like a SH/MQ would be able to nail those styles and also offer him bags more character. I figured either a Stockholm or Pig 90 would be ideal for the bridge as you get this huge, tight and aggressive sound that nails everything he says he's after with character as well. If you feel the Stockholm would be a better bet than the Pig 90, I would obviously defer to your greater experience with these pickups. Naturally I can't see past a MQ for the neck and it would certainly offer a very versatile set.
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Re: Telecaster HH pickups: chunky, defined high-gain bridge + liquid neck
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2016, 09:56:42 PM »
Thanks Kiichi  :smiley:

I wasn't sure if I was right but it seemed to me that all of the humbuckers that will do what he wants, don't have the 'character' he's also after and those that do have more 'character' aren't ideal for the style he wants. It seemed to me that a P90 set like a SH/MQ would be able to nail those styles and also offer him bags more character. I figured either a Stockholm or Pig 90 would be ideal for the bridge as you get this huge, tight and aggressive sound that nails everything he says he's after with character as well. If you feel the Stockholm would be a better bet than the Pig 90, I would obviously defer to your greater experience with these pickups. Naturally I can't see past a MQ for the neck and it would certainly offer a very versatile set.
I simply cannot comment on the Pig90 much, so I donŽt. It is very rare to read something about it, so much knowledge is very limited. It is on my list of things to get. Have this thing in my head where I might make a bar-steward out of a P90 semihollow Tele (Jimmy Eat World signature) one day.

I can say that the Stockholm is a lovingly raw brutal beast though and certainly separates itself from the crowd with character.

With the rest you know things better as well.
BKPs in use: 10th set / RY set / Holy Diver b, Emerald n / Crawler bridge, Slowhand mid MQ neck/ Manhattan n
On the sidelines: Stockholm b / Suppermassive n, Mule n, AM set, IT mid

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Re: Telecaster HH pickups: chunky, defined high-gain bridge + liquid neck
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2016, 10:50:33 PM »
Jumping in so late, but I think the Nailbomb is perfect for what you want in the bridge. The NB/MQ combo is very popular

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Re: Telecaster HH pickups: chunky, defined high-gain bridge + liquid neck
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2016, 03:57:29 AM »
I have the Stockholm as well, and an A-Bomb.  Output is similar.  Both pickups are quite modern sounding but the A-Bomb is more 'hairy' and not as forgiving regarding which guitar you put it into.

Stockholm/Supermassive, Stockholm/Nantucket, or Stockholm/Mississippi Queen could all work well here
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Re: Telecaster HH pickups: chunky, defined high-gain bridge + liquid neck
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2016, 05:02:48 PM »
I have the Stockholm as well, and an A-Bomb.  Output is similar.  Both pickups are quite modern sounding but the A-Bomb is more 'hairy' and not as forgiving regarding which guitar you put it into.

Stockholm/Supermassive, Stockholm/Nantucket, or Stockholm/Mississippi Queen could all work well here
Yep, though seeing as cleans are wanted too IŽd take out the SH/SM combo. Cleans are proper still, but not close to the other two imho.
BKPs in use: 10th set / RY set / Holy Diver b, Emerald n / Crawler bridge, Slowhand mid MQ neck/ Manhattan n
On the sidelines: Stockholm b / Suppermassive n, Mule n, AM set, IT mid