New guitar, new pickups?

[Lucas]

What do you think about Riff Raff neck? I wouldn't score it out right away.

[ericsabbath]

painkiller set should work pretty well too
but if you want something warmer, you're between the rebll yell set and holy diver set

[Dave Sloven]

Here's a video of a Holy Diver set in a guitar with similar woods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6PAW26sQv4

This one gives a better idea of the set for leads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLzET9Yy3oY

You might also like this video comparing various BKPs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EEopE1N2c8

I hope this helps

[ztevie]

I haven't ruled out anything. But man, watching videos throws you from one pup to the other... :)
But that's just the way things are. I'm soaking up bits and pieces here and there. I found a video where it seems he switches to Jugg neck and does a fast run on wound strings. Sounds pretty defined to me, notes don't turn to mush there anyway... Start at 5:41.
https://youtu.be/xpMWY4JCOMg

[Yellowjacket]

Yes, there is pick attack and clarity on the Juggernaut Neck pickup for sure.  I was just saying that it's a lot more fluid and liquidy sounding when compared to the Rebel Yell Neck, which has a super wide pick attack.
RE: the video.  That's a very good indication of how it sounds for leads.  You can hear the OOOOOoo vowel sound, the warm thick lows, and the super liquidy tone.

The Juggerset is amazing, period.  I mean all BKP are really good, but in my estimation, the juggernaut set does cleans, rhythm, and lead all so well.  It's pretty amazing, really.  The feel is also spot on and the pickups just 'feel' good to play.  I'd get the set.  I actually got both a 6 string and a 7 string set already, so there you go.

My lump of mahogany guitar has a Rebel Yell bridge (Also a fantastic pickup) and a VHII neck, and my LP has an A-Bomb bridge and a Rebel Yell neck.  Originally, I had a rebel yell set in the LP but the guitar was one of these ball of mud neck and thin bridge guitars and the Rebel Yell set mitigated the problem but didn't quite solve it.  Lowering the neck pickup and getting an A-Bomb was enough to sort the issue. 

[ztevie]

Just for testing i took out my Vigier Shawn Lane that's loaded with A-bomb/Cold Sweat. It's pretty similar in specs to the Padalka that now has Evo2/Paf Pro, although the Vigier is alder body and rosewood board while the padalka is mahogany body, maple top and maple board and is actually brighter in tone than the Vigier.
I played the same AxeFx patch and switched guitars a few times. The Cold Sweat was really much much tighter and much more articulate than the Paf Pro...
And the Nailbomb sounded so mean compared to the Evo2.
Of course it's different guitars so it's not a 100% fair comparison. But I guess this is why I like Bareknuckles. They have something extra which is hard to pinpoint unless you compare side to side.
The Juggs is of great interest atm, maybe it would be nice to try them for a different approach compared to the A-bomb/CS.

[Lucas]

Agent Orange,
after watching those clips I came to conclusion that Riff Raff neck is definitely brighter than Holydiver plus it has more  pick attack, bite and more character as well.

[Yellowjacket]

You'll love the cleans with the Juggs.  Also, the bridge pickup has such a great lead tone <3

I think the A-Bomb is possibly the raunchiest and most pissed off humbucker I've ever heard.  The Juggerbridge is a little more 'balanced' meaning that it can be more polite but it does turn aggressive when you dig in.  Definitely will be tighter than the Evo2 & PAF Pro.

I can PM you a couple of clips if you would like.   

Just for testing i took out my Vigier Shawn Lane that's loaded with A-bomb/Cold Sweat. It's pretty similar in specs to the Padalka that now has Evo2/Paf Pro, although the Vigier is alder body and rosewood board while the padalka is mahogany body, maple top and maple board and is actually brighter in tone than the Vigier.
I played the same AxeFx patch and switched guitars a few times. The Cold Sweat was really much much tighter and much more articulate than the Paf Pro...
And the Nailbomb sounded so mean compared to the Evo2.
Of course it's different guitars so it's not a 100% fair comparison. But I guess this is why I like Bareknuckles. They have something extra which is hard to pinpoint unless you compare side to side.
The Juggs is of great interest atm, maybe it would be nice to try them for a different approach compared to the A-bomb/CS.

[ztevie]

I can PM you a couple of clips if you would like.   

Oh, please do! If you have some rhythm bridge stuff and leads from both pups it would be awesome!

[Lucas]

Well, Ztevie, what neck pickup have you decided on then?

[ztevie]

Well, Ztevie, what neck pickup have you decided on then?

Haven't made up my mind just yet, but I'm leaning towards a set of Juggs. I know they might not fit the description of me wanting something bright, but I've heard many clips now and although it's not bright per definition, it does seem to be tight and have that fast response when picking, even on the neck.
I'll give it a couple more days before final decision.

[Lucas]

Well, Ztevie, what neck pickup have you decided on then?

Haven't made up my mind just yet, but I'm leaning towards a set of Juggs. I know they might not fit the description of me wanting something bright, but I've heard many clips now and although it's not bright per definition, it does seem to be tight and have that fast response when picking, even on the neck.
I'll give it a couple more days before final decision.

what other neck models do you consider?

[Dave Sloven]

I have to wonder if a HD neck & VH2 bridge combo might work well here.

[ztevie]

what other neck models do you consider?

Several... but I'm very keen to see if you get an answer to you're question in your riff Raff thread, that clip sounds great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAy7BTTtjzg
is that RR too?
Anyway, how does RR behave under hi gain for faster solos? Would you be able to record some clip with hi gain playing more 'shredy' things?
How does it sound with Juggernaut bridge?

[ztevie]

I'm pretty much set on the Jugg bridge. I like the idea of a bridge pup that's right and can do fluid solos aswell, even decent cleans as it seems.
For the neck I'm not quite there. The Jugg neck could be an option but since its regarded a very warm pickup I'm a bit hesitant. For me, the neck position in itself is already plenty warm.
I might just order the Jugg bridge and try some other options for the neck. I do have a SD Full Shred neck in another guitar I could try.
Another option that tickle my gas some is the SD Screamin Demon in the neck. Many reviews talk about it as a perfect neck pup that removes many of the quirks I dislike.
Like in this video below... You can hear it's very clear and shows no sign to mud at all, even doing quick runs all over the fretboard. Seems to have very fast response in the pick attack? Almost a singlecoilish character although the sound is clearly humbucker...

https://youtu.be/xfbrlale9j8