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pakoA25

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Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« on: September 20, 2017, 05:24:38 PM »
Hi BKP'S people!

I have a Black Dog in the bridge and MULE in neck.  Black Dog is powerfull and MULE is litle compared with the Dog. 

Im thinking in travel to vintage and dinamic sound and lose a litle of power, but win in dinamic range and Hard mids with Abraxas in the bridge.  I think that a calibrated set is better than Dog and MULE because mule dont have the same body.

Im searching info but nobody put Abraxas set in a SG,  but important aspect, this SG is particular SG. Mahogany solid body similar to Les Paul,  but more slim obviusly.

Some opinion? 

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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2017, 05:57:01 PM »
The SG is quite middy itself and then you want to put a middy pup in it. Could be overload of mids for me.

Why not try the matching Black Dog neck pup instead?
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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2017, 06:20:33 PM »
I don't know why so many people mix pickups. A lot of R&D went into it the matched BKP-sets and for a good reason.
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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2017, 06:22:34 PM »
what you want is an actual bridge mule
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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2017, 07:31:14 PM »
what you want is an actual bridge mule

Trust me, he doesn't want one. This is an SG Supreme we're talking about - maple cap and an ebony board. I had a set of Mules in mine. The neck Mule sounded wonderful, but the bridge was too bright, even with a 250k pot. Also, it lacked a bit of punch. I replaced it with a Holydiver which was much better, but also quite hot. I still think that the Supreme needs full sounding pickups to sound good, and as much as I love the Mules, they can sound a bit thin in the wrong guitar. 

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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2017, 07:36:56 PM »
More info:

In we Last disc we are playing with hi gain sound, i use Engl powerball amp, but im traveling to Foo fighters sound, for example.  I like crunchi Hard Rock stile,  with powerball muscle.

Look,  this my actually sound
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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2017, 02:05:58 AM »
Yes the Supreme is a very different animal from say an SG Standard.  It has a thick carved maple cap on a solid mahogany body.

Given what you have said regarding what you have found to work or not work, I suspect that the Abraxas might be a good choice.
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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2017, 06:27:58 AM »
The SG is quite middy itself and then you want to put a middy pup in it. Could be overload of mids for me.

Why not try the matching Black Dog neck pup instead?

Well, really the black dog is midy, but its means are somewhat sweet, or that impression I have, while the Abraxas media seems to me to be somewhat more classic (less HI FI) and therefore more raw. That for me means more aggressiveness and a more organic tone. Also my amp is very scooped so I think the mix can be good.

I don't know why so many people mix pickups. A lot of R&D went into it the matched BKP-sets and for a good reason.

When I bought these pills I was advised by the BKP team, and at that moment I was looking for a fat sound on the bridge and something more subtle in the neck (for example to play in clean, regee, ska ...) and it was great these years .

Now I look for something with more flavor to rock, harder, with more character, and also I think that the level of volume and balance will be better in a set designed exclusively for it, that's why I pose the change :)
what you want is an actual bridge mule

Trust me, he doesn't want one. This is an SG Supreme we're talking about - maple cap and an ebony board. I had a set of Mules in mine. The neck Mule sounded wonderful, but the bridge was too bright, even with a 250k pot. Also, it lacked a bit of punch. I replaced it with a Holydiver which was much better, but also quite hot. I still think that the Supreme needs full sounding pickups to sound good, and as much as I love the Mules, they can sound a bit thin in the wrong guitar. 

True, I think the mules are not my thing. The proof is that I feel thin on the neck. I'm not saying that I do not like their dynamics, it's great, but I want a little more aggressiveness to do with distortion alone. In the same way, for the bridge I look for that medium shade that gives me a slightly more real sound. I think AIV is going to give me this, while AV is thicker, and that I can get with my amplifier increasing some frequencies, but if I start from a slightly older base, I think I will have a result with more personality.
Yes the Supreme is a very different animal from say an SG Standard.  It has a thick carved maple cap on a solid mahogany body.

Given what you have said regarding what you have found to work or not work, I suspect that the Abraxas might be a good choice.

It's not a known model, but I can swear that when I've played alongside other guitarists with LP, whatever the amplifier is, I've sounded the same or better and a lot more personal. Somehow this model sounds fat and hard as an LP, but has a brightness and a brilliant means that make it stand out. The sustain is great too.

Add to all this, that with any tablet you can touch everything, hehe, but I'm looking for that personal touch that makes me more authentic. Escape the heavy metal nuances to get closer to the hot crunches (which I'll feed on later with my amplifier).

Thanks for the answers. I invite you to listen to the video that I put up.

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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2017, 08:52:37 AM »
Are they similar to the Diablo?  I've long lusted after a Diablo Tremolo.

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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2017, 11:23:06 AM »
Are they similar to the Diablo?  I've long lusted after a Diablo Tremolo.

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No, devil has other pickups (Gibson 480 or 490 ...) and Supreme Classic 57. Diablo floyd rose and suppreme fixed bridge. Also the rosewood diapason. Supreme has it in ebony. As for electronics I do not know, but I set up the 500k potentiometers recommended by BKP.

Devil should sound deeper, darker and meaner treble. Supreme has a more rigid or hard sound, but not for that, not flexible, of course :)

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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 06:27:55 AM »
Hello people!

Finally im ordered an Abraxas calibrated set. Im think that this is betters solution for me because i was comparing BLACK DOG with GIBSON CLASSIC 57 (my original guitar pickup) and i prefer a médium vintage tone (classic 57), but with clarity and quality of BKP, and more punch & power. Abraxas have this concept.

In the neck, i adjusted position of my MULE, and i like it. Don't have BASS frecuences that classic 57, but have a pretty treble. Im thinking that Abraxas in neck is similar to MULE but with more body, power & punch, and set calibrated is perfect.

Now im waiting. If is posible i will to record a samples.

Ah!! Sorry for my english!!  :cool:

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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2017, 10:15:37 PM »
I actually took them out of my SG, the mule sounded great but the Abraxas was a little hard & not smooth  sounding, just not quiet right. I ended up putting a set of Rio Grande Texas BBQ pickups in it & they sound fantastic in the SG.
I have 6 guitars with BK pickups & the Abraxas/Mule combo sounds perfect in my R9 Les Paul for those wondering about mixing pickups.

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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2017, 02:21:27 AM »
Had the same guitar with the same BBQ set in them.  That was a smokin lead machine!

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Re: Abraxas set for SG SUPREME
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2017, 10:04:10 PM »
Hello! I have finally been testing the Abraxas on my SG SUPREME !!

At first they sounded a little crazy, with distortion. Excessive means, treble less "HI FI" ... and some extra bass (the Black Dog cuts them great). Something less definite sound (if we understand that the modern usually sounds more perfect) so I would say it is normal because it is more classic cut. At the last minute I trimmed the EQ a bit and it was something else. As a cool thing, open bestial chords .. very Hard rockers, and in the soloist facet, I think that the more dynamic the game, the more it requires me, but we're going to great technique.

Equilibrium between neck and bridge are wonderfull. Cleans and crunch sounds are greats too.
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