Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???

[Lucas]

Bare Knuckles Boot Camp...
Has anyone noticed recent Facebook posts regarding NAMM 2018 and BKP preparing something called boot camp? Apparently it`s new pickup line... Any more info? They have new boxes design for sure as they were shown on last photo uploaded on Facebook, but new pickup line????

[johnny_rock_it]

Yeah! I was curious about this too.

I thought this was a marketing campaign where "boot camp" is training for people to get familiar with the variety of BKP products.  Aka teaches you which pick ups fit for what genre of music.

But it looks to be a new line of pick ups?

https://www.facebook.com/bareknucklepickups/photos/a.252944701520782.1073741831.141809295967657/1008881785927066/?type=3&theater

Also from Tim:

"I’ve long wanted to design a stripped back, no-nonsense pickup range aimed at guitar players of all levels who just want to cut to the chase and have great tone.
3 output ranges - 4 types of pickup. It’s as easy as that, with all the core options taken care of. Handwound at the Bare Knuckle workshops and warrantied for life. No more excuses. Get your tone in shape. Welcome to the world of Bare Knuckle Boot Camp." Tim Mills, BKP Founder/MD.

[Kiichi]

And a demo video is up. (hope this type of link works)

https://www.facebook.com/bareknucklepickups/videos/1009705165844728/?sk=h_chr

I need more info on this! So I gather they are HB, p90, tele, and strat in 3 different output levels. Which ones in the current range are they most comparable to? How do they differ?

The idea can work to cut down on confusion for those new to this world or those who just don´t bother with it as much as we nerds, but heck. That is 12 new pickups if I am not mistaken! That´s mental!

[Lucas]

looks like they are some sort of the 'entry' level pickups. If that`s the case I have mixed feelings, first of all good, because more people who cannot afford standard BKPs can enjoy them but then BKP are not 'boutique' pickups anymore. Just quick thought,

I`m really curious that`s the difference (apart from price, open humbuckers will be £90... know it from Facebook) and what 'standard' models they`ll be referring to

[capac]

How do you make a pickup cheaper? I'm guessing they'll be machine wound?

[Lucas]

How do you make a pickup cheaper? I'm guessing they'll be machine wound?

They say on Facebook that those ones will be hand wound and quality checked same as 'standard ones'.  If that's the entry level, just wondering how they compare to 'standard' pickups. And yes, they will be cheaper, £90 for open coil humbucker

[ericsabbath]

Well, they'll cost what all the others costed until a couple years ago, so I don't think it has anything to do with material quality or building technique
It's just a slightly more accessible limited series

[capac]

Yeah, probably a trick to get more people into BKP world.

[Lucas]

I've also read on Facebook replies from BKP that this line won't be available through their website, only retailers.

[capac]

Yeah, this is definitely just a plan to promote the brand.

[Lucas]

Official videos are on the website already. All of them.

What do you think?  Humbuckers didn`t appeal to me that much but liked Strat medium output though

[johnny_rock_it]

Ah! I think I understand the concept now.

4 styles of pickups meaning Humbuckers, P90s, Strat Single Coils and Tele Single Coils.

3 variety of output consisting of

Old Guard sounds to be  PAF - me thinks like Mules, Riff Raff
True Grit would probably be like a PAF+ or something slightly hotter like Emeralds/Abraxas
and Brute Force would probably be more modern and heavy - Warpig/NB/Aftermaths

I'd be interested in the True Grit HBs and P90s

[Lucas]

Can wait for someone to compare them to 'standard' models though. I`m not convinced that much but that Boot camp line to be honest (yet)...

[schneidas]

It doesn't help that Rabea Massad is doing the sound demos.
No offense to the guy, he's a brilliant player (and a super great guy btw!) but I find it hard (to nearly impossible) to judge tone from any of his demos about gear.

[timmy_pix]

So what i haven't worked out yet is what these pickups offer that the core range doesn't.

Are they cheaper versions of existing models? Or are they new additions to the range, in which case why the limited options? 

I get the idea that they're meant to be simple orders, just choose how hot you want your pickup and buy, but do they offer something I can't get in the core range? And if they do, what if (being hypothetical) I decided I wanted aTrue Grit over an Emerald or an Abraxas, but I wanted a battleworn black cover, would that be viable?

I guess I understand the desire to have an easy access/easy order set of pickuos, but splitting the range has confused me a bit.