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schneidas

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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2018, 01:56:09 PM »
My understanding is that these are aimed at guys that don't want to go into the details (Alnico grades, ceramics, resistance, potted, etc.) of pickups.
They just choose the output range for their music style - and get their BKP pickups and can see what those are about.

So for the less "nerdy" generation of players if you will  :wink:
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2018, 04:31:36 PM »
Okay, that makes sense I guess. But then why not make them a part of the core range as well? They seem to be new pickup designs, after all. Maybe Tim will explain it at some point, or people will try to order and it'll become clear.
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2018, 05:58:37 PM »
Maybe the bootcamp series were design to make things simpler for the general population to get into BKPs........

But I think it'll act more like a gateway drug and they'll want the real deal and try them all.

Maybe that was the plan all along. Touche Tim. Touche.
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capac

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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2018, 06:02:04 PM »
They'll only be available through dealers, so custom options could be limited. I think they are completely new designs.
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2018, 06:45:03 PM »
I think we can use an analogy to fast food here. Are they supposed to be fast food things for those who want to try BKPs?

I`m bit confused to be honest. Still waiting for more info and most importantly difference in comparison to 'standard' models and I`m not talking about limited options such as covers ect.
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2018, 07:22:48 PM »
Just to confirm, these are completely new designs - they are not in any way related to models in the rest of the range. I've just put a set of True Grit humbuckers in a guitar and have to say they are fantastic. I'm sure the BKP team will be putting a lot more info out there in the near future.
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2018, 07:38:09 PM »
Quote from: Nolly on January 25, 2018, 07:22:48 PM
Just to confirm, these are completely new designs - they are not in any way related to models in the rest of the range. I've just put a set of True Grit humbuckers in a guitar and have to say they are fantastic. I'm sure the BKP team will be putting a lot more info out there in the near future.
how they compare to rest of the models? What`s the main difference? And what`s more what`s the whole idea behind them?
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2018, 08:52:46 PM »
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Nolly

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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2018, 09:27:23 PM »
Quote from: Lucas on January 25, 2018, 07:38:09 PM
how they compare to rest of the models? What`s the main difference? And what`s more what`s the whole idea behind them?

I don't really feel comfortable saying too much since I've literally only tried the TG humbucker set and not any of the 11 other sets, and I also think it's important BKP get to present the range on their own terms. I don't think I'd be overstepping to say that it's fairly evident the OG, TG and BF roughly map on to the vintage, vintage-hot and contemporary output range classification.
In my PRS CU24 the TG humbuckers have a wonderful fat mid, creamy top and surprisingly tight lows, and exhibit a very rich harmonic character that shines through chords and single notes beautifully. Suffice to say, they're staying in there!
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2018, 11:23:04 AM »
What about specs? Magnet, DC, frequency chart and possibly wire type?
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2018, 12:10:58 PM »
Quote from: ericsabbath on January 26, 2018, 11:23:04 AM
What about specs? Magnet, DC, frequency chart and possibly wire type?

Your guess is as good as mine! According to the BKP website the OGs are AII, TGs are AV and BF are ceramic in the humbuckers and P90s, AV in the strat and tele coils.
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2018, 01:43:16 PM »
I'm suprised they haven't rolled out any specs yet...
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2018, 02:37:24 PM »
Bizarre that these are not available on the website to buy. Dealers could bump the prices up a tad.
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2018, 05:47:51 PM »
Quote from: Nolly on January 26, 2018, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: ericsabbath on January 26, 2018, 11:23:04 AM
What about specs? Magnet, DC, frequency chart and possibly wire type?

Your guess is as good as mine! According to the BKP website the OGs are AII, TGs are AV and BF are ceramic in the humbuckers and P90s, AV in the strat and tele coils.

Nice!
That was my guess about magnets, but still curious about more details
I loved the tones in all the videos specially the old guard humbucker and the true grit p-90, but didn't hear the audio clips yet

Thanks, Nolly (The Great)
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Re: Bare Knuckles Boot Camp ???
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2018, 04:33:28 AM »
I think this marketing strategy makes a lot of sense from a business standpoint.   I believe that Bare Knuckle will be able to competively price these pickups by removing the custom options in lieu of compromising quality.  Custom orders will always encumber the production process and time is money.  These pickups will be ready to wind and ship, wind and ship, wind and ship. 

When you think how dramatic an effect these pickups would have on a good, entry level guitar, it is a great idea.
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