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carlaz

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WichBKP: vintage & defined sound wth lot attack & dy
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2006, 12:41:12 PM »
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Scuse me but what means "hotter" for you ? More output level ? More bass ? Less defined (fat) ?

"Hotter" meaning "more output", or at least higher DC resistance (which is a rough guide to output).  The Mule bridge pickup is around 8.4k, the Crawler 15k (and the Abraxas 14k).
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Witch of these 3 pickups is more defined and more dynamic ?

I think all the BKPs have good definition when compared to most other brands. :)  But my feeling is that the lower output (less hot) pickups like the Mule may be what you call more "dynamic".  Hotter pickups have a more "compressed" sound.
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2006, 12:49:33 PM »
Ok thanks !
I can explain what I call dynamic (maybe it's only a french expression ?)
The dynamic is the output level difference between the smaller pick attack and the harder. Dynamic is the opposite of compression.
So I think we talk about the same thing  :wink:
I like the sound respect my fingers :D
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2006, 01:00:03 PM »
Maby a new detail can help us to find what's the best for me : I like organic sounds.

Abraxas's description is attractive when they said :"The sound is pure vintage, hot and bright with an organic, yet balanced mid range and extra power. From glorious clean to rich overdriven tones, dynamics and clarity are never compromised even when driven hard."
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carlaz

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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2006, 01:01:09 PM »
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I can explain what I call dynamic (maybe it's only a french expression ?) The dynamic is the output level difference between the smaller pick attack and the harder. Dynamic is the opposite of compression.
So I think we talk about the same thing  :wink:
I like the sound respect my fingers :D

Yes, it seems like "dynamic" and "dynamique" still mean the same thing :) (I don't remember much of my French anymore :oops:, but I use a lot of Spanish, and I am sometimes surprised by words that I think ought to mean the same as the English version ... but don't! ;)).

Anyway ... a pickup with lower output (like a Mule) will be more dynamic.  Tim from BKP often says you can use guitars with Mules to play metal, but you have to really "dig" with your fingers because the Mules are less compressed than a pickup specifically designed for metal tones.

The Abraxas and the Crawler are intended to be "hot", driving an amplifier harder, but without losing all the "organic" feel and dynamics of a PAF-style pickup like the Mule. The Abraxas is inspired by Santana tones (quite hot compared to, say, Duane Allman, but still with an organic vibe), while the Crawler was designed for Geoff Whitehorn who has played with people like Paul Rodgers/Bad Company (hard 70s blues-rock styles, perhaps more "aggressive" than a Santana sound?)

Still, for real vintage feel -- very organic and very dynamic -- the PAF-style pickups are going to do that better than most, I think!  Do ask Tim :)
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2006, 01:06:56 PM »
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Tim from BKP often says you can use guitars with Mules to play metal, but you have to really "dig" with your fingers because the Mules are less compressed than a pickup specifically designed for metal tones.

It is P.E.R.F.E.C.T. !!
It's exactly what I'm searching for ! For a sound who respect exactly my picks attacks ! :D :D

I want to play metal with hard strings and hard pick's attacks :twisted:
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2006, 01:15:25 PM »
Sounds like Mules might be just what you want.  Check with Tim, who (a) makes the pickups :), and (b) plays guitars with Mules in an Ozzy/Sabbath cover band. :twisted:

There must also be some metal-styled music samples with Mules in the "Players" section of the forum ....
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2006, 01:38:14 PM »
I've just MP Tim. Thank you very much for helping me ! :D
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2006, 01:44:40 PM »
Looking back through the thread, I see Tim earlier recommended the Riff Raff.  That's also a PAF-style, like the Mule, but with a slightly different feel. ("Brighter" perhaps, with more mid-range and/or treble? I have not heard as many Riff Raff samples as I have Mule samples.)  Still, it could be as good as option as the Mule depending on the exact tone you want; both will be very vintage, organic and dynamic.
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2006, 02:11:33 PM »
I prefer more bass/mids than trebble. It's for my future guitare : maple neck and fingerboard and an alder body with maple top.
So the guitar will be bright and defined.
I need a pickup with little more bass than treble.
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2006, 08:02:34 PM »
Hotter is a loose term, but a good way to figure it out is to listen to Rammstein. They have a VERY VERY VERY HOT SOUND. Then listen to jazz. That's not hot.


I'm going to leech this topic a bit. How defined and tight is the bass on the Holy Drivers and Nailbombs?