Warpig similarities to Duncan Invader?

[Louderthangod]

I have a pair of flying v's, one with a duncan invader in the bridge and another with a Tom Anderson HN3+.  I really like the Invader because of the strong mid's, tight lows and highs that are warm but not excessively bright...it's a great match for my Matamp/Electric gear.  The Anderson is too round, the mid's are voiced too high so the pickup sounds too bright.  The description of the Warpig sounds something like that of the Invader...how do the two compare?

[doomalevolent]

Interesting, i have an invader too and the warpig atract me.

[Davey]

warpig > invader



they're both heavy pups.. but IMO, thats where the smilarities end.

the warpig is wound way hotter, uses a diferent magnet and is voiced diferently.


imho, designed to drive the amp with an INSANE midrange that will cut your head off.
it sounds heavy as hell. i got one, but not in the guitar yet... will be soon though

[Louderthangod]

warpig > invader



they're both heavy pups.. but IMO, thats where the smilarities end.

the warpig is wound way hotter, uses a diferent magnet and is voiced diferently.


imho, designed to drive the amp with an INSANE midrange that will cut your head off.
it sounds heavy as hell. i got one, but not in the guitar yet... will be soon though

Wait, so you haven't used a Warpig yet?  I have a few concerns...everyone talks about the huge low-end of the warpig and I'm wondering if it's so big that it's overbearing.  It doesn't sound like it in the clips but I'm wondering how much eq tweaking that took.  I tune down to B and use a set of 14-68's and I've had some pickups that just turned all of that low-end in to flubby mess whereas the Invader was tight, deep and mean sounding.  I'd like something along those same lines but not the same thing otherwise I'd just buy another Invader.  I'm also considering the Nailbomb because of the tight, percussiveness of it.  I have a handful of regular guitars and I'd like for each of them to have a unique tone for themselves but I don't need to make them fit into some specific sound so I'm pretty open with my options.

[Sifu Ben]

I have an invader and I hate it !!!!!!!!! Tone is too harsh and the gain too hard to control. The allen bolts are huge, so it's very bassy, but the bass definition isn't really that great :( When I can free up some cash it's getting swapped for a Holydiver.

[Louderthangod]

I have an invader and I hate it !!!!!!!!! Tone is too harsh and the gain too hard to control. The allen bolts are huge, so it's very bassy, but the bass definition isn't really that great :( When I can free up some cash it's getting swapped for a Holydiver.

Yeah I didn't like the sound of the Invader with the 5150 but with the Matamp it sounds great.  Gear and tone is all about the combination of things, some of them make sense and sometimes you get surprised.  Dumble amps are well known for thier tone but are made with some very cheap components in some examples.

[Davey]

warpig > invader



they're both heavy pups.. but IMO, thats where the smilarities end.

the warpig is wound way hotter, uses a diferent magnet and is voiced diferently.


imho, designed to drive the amp with an INSANE midrange that will cut your head off.
it sounds heavy as hell. i got one, but not in the guitar yet... will be soon though

Wait, so you haven't used a Warpig yet?  I have a few concerns...everyone talks about the huge low-end of the warpig and I'm wondering if it's so big that it's overbearing.  It doesn't sound like it in the clips but I'm wondering how much eq tweaking that took.  I tune down to B and use a set of 14-68's and I've had some pickups that just turned all of that low-end in to flubby mess whereas the Invader was tight, deep and mean sounding.  I'd like something along those same lines but not the same thing otherwise I'd just buy another Invader.  I'm also considering the Nailbomb because of the tight, percussiveness of it.  I have a handful of regular guitars and I'd like for each of them to have a unique tone for themselves but I don't need to make them fit into some specific sound so I'm pretty open with my options.

i played umm.. 3 guitars with the warpig at the london guitar show.
one was a geiger ibanez, which was tuned to D and through a zakk wylde jcm800, with gain somewhere in the middle it sounded like opeth with a bit more punch in the mids. i LOVED it... why do you think i got it LOL

the bass isnt overpowering at all, there's just enough of it. its an awesome pickup. i should get the money from the refund around the 18th, so then i'll buy a GH50L so you can expect soundclips once i set up my recording bits

[Louderthangod]

Well I took the plunge and bought a pair of warpigs today.   I should know what they sound like in the next week or so maybe a little longer because I'm having a good amount of work doing on the guitar that they're going in and I don't cut my own nuts.  I figure if these work out I might pickup a set of nailbombs for one of my other guitars...I like my main guitars to sound unique.

[Tricalibur]

^ be sure to post sound clips  :)

[Jappse]

I have an invader and I hate it !!!!!!!!! Tone is too harsh and the gain too hard to control. The allen bolts are huge, so it's very bassy, but the bass definition isn't really that great :( When I can free up some cash it's getting swapped for a Holydiver.

Why a holydiver, if you want tight bass, get a miracle man!

[doomalevolent]

Tim advised to me set of warpig or miracle man for low tunning, miracle man got "tight bass" ? not warpig ? could you tell the difference for the warpig and invader, exemple : warpig : X bass
             X middle
             X treble

warpid are more definite ?

[TwilightOdyssey]

Tim advised to me set of warpig or miracle man for low tunning, miracle man got "tight bass" ? not warpig ? could you tell the difference for the warpig and invader, exemple : warpig : X bass
             X middle
             X treble

warpid are more definite ?

They both have tight bass, just in different amounts; the Warpig uses a different magnet, wind, and wire than the Miracle Man. This will create a different sounding pickup. The new site design will have EQ charts for all of the pickups, for those of you that must have some kind of number attached to each frequency band.

[Jonesy]

whens this site gopnan be ready...im holding out 2 buy some pups until it arriives...

[Jappse]

warpid are more definite ?

The Miracle Man has the most definition of the two. Thats why its known as a very good lead pickup.

[Davey]

whens this site gopnan be ready...im holding out 2 buy some pups until it arriives...

buy both? ;)





i am still debating with myself if it was a good, or bad thing that they didnt have any distressed single coil covers at LGS, or else i'd have a trilogy too