Author Topic: The Official Find an Affordable Tube Amp for me Thread. (Read 26233 times)

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #15 on:** August 29, 2006, 12:51:24 PM »

Quote from: Hell Hound

I personnaly think the H&K Warp serie is pure cr@p (beside the Warp Factor dist box wich kicks serious ass through a good tube amp), I've played on one of those warp transistor head and it sounded like a loud Boss MT-2... horrible.
I recently tried a Peavey Valveking and recommend it to anyone with a tight budget (or noobs, they like the fact it's all tubes, they fell like their idols with that haha), it very versatile (2 channels, reverb, can be set for class A vintage sound to AB modern with a pot, fully footswitchable) and IMHO kills anything in that price range in term of sound quality. And with all that it's VERY powerfull, the 212 combo wich is priced 470€ (thomann, germany) is rated 100W full tube power (insane IMO ^_^; ).
No hesitation here I think...

Do you use your H&K warp pedal on the clean channel (if you have one)

What channel would you recommend me using it on if i got a Valve King?

Hell Hound · « **Reply #16 on:** August 29, 2006, 01:06:05 PM »

If you got a valveking you won't need it :lol: this amp got insane gain (and it's a death/meshuggah kind of guy telling you that). I use it on my Engl Tube pre on the rythm channel with a little gain (a bit more than crunch) and it seriously ripps with my baritone Schecter. I don't really need it, as the engl already got insane gain, but it gives me another sound in my arsenal :)
A valveking alone with a good guitar and maybe a speaker mod (Celestion H30 or V30 recomended) and you're good to go without anything else...

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #17 on:** August 29, 2006, 01:13:04 PM »

I've read many reviews of this amp saying it is classic rock, and can only just do metal, and it was everyone saying that not just one person. I read about 10 reviews and then looked at something else.

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #18 on:** August 29, 2006, 01:21:51 PM »

Success! I have found an Ashdown Fallen Angel 60 DSP for £455 new!
This is sure to give me a great distortion and great quality at an afordable price.

Though i havn't tried one i'm just going on what other people have said here. Does it have a good metal tone?

Hell Hound · « **Reply #19 on:** August 29, 2006, 02:56:08 PM »

Well I don't know what guitars all those guys use but with a high output HB there's enough gain for death metal.

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #20 on:** August 29, 2006, 03:04:39 PM »

Right, well my list now looks like this (getting closer!):

Laney LC50-II ------------------£415 (inc. postage)
Peavey Valve King 212 --------£359
Ashdown FA60 DSP ------------£455 (inc. postage)

What do people know about this Laney LC50-II, good distortion, good cleans??

headtheball · « **Reply #21 on:** August 29, 2006, 05:50:14 PM »

I had an LC50 MkI for yonks, but I eventually killed it (A combination of general wear and tear and a moderatley stupid combination of pedals...Two RATs, maxed, a 50 db homemade preamp and a boss eq, maxed). Before I did that though, it was possessed of a pretty goddamn meaty rhythm tone, and not bad lead sounds with a bit of boost. They are a touch noisy though, unless you have really good valves.

If you were going for one, I'd go second hand, wap a decent speaker i there (mine was running an EVM 12-L) and stick a decent graphic eq in the loop. Good tubes would be of benefit, maybe even a re-bias to use el-34's if it's a Mk-I. All in all, a very nice amp.

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #22 on:** August 29, 2006, 07:41:14 PM »

Well this one is a MK-II but i suppose it will be basically the same.

Decisions decisions.

The annoying thing is i can't try before i buy with the Laney, so i don't know if i will like it.
But i can try the Ashdown and Peavey.

OD-Black_Fire · « **Reply #23 on:** August 29, 2006, 10:18:40 PM »

B52 AT-212, £420, not including postage. All tube. None of this tube preamp/tran poweramp.

The head + 4x12 cab will be more like £540 quid, not to far off.

But can it pull off Metallica? $%&#, it can pull of everything. It can sound kinda Marshall-ish, which should be good for the older stuff, or more Dual rectifier-ish, which will take care of everything else. This is because of the 3 rectifiers you can chose from and the low resonance control. Look it up because I suggest this all the time and I'm sick of explaining it :P

Cleans are great too. Much like a Fender Twin, but a little more sterile, but its not really sterile. Just more clean than the Twins.

EDIT: You can do more than just metal with the distortion also. If you use the 2nd overdrive channel, keep the gain below half, switch the rectifier to Class A and plug in a guitar with some medium/low powered pickups you can get a great VOX tone.

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #24 on:** August 30, 2006, 09:22:44 PM »

Someone suggested a B52 before, it was probably you lol

But i couldn't find it anywhere, where did you find this one?

OD-Black_Fire · « **Reply #25 on:** August 30, 2006, 09:27:13 PM »

I live in America, it is much easier to find it in stores in America. But you can get them online. It totaly skipped my mind that it might be hard to get outside of the US.

EDIT: Balls, musicians friend doesn't ship outside of the US, but here's a list of international dealers from the B-52 website.

http://www.b-52stealthseries.com/international.html

I also just checked on their website and there is now a 1x12 60 watt combo too!

Fubar · « **Reply #26 on:** August 30, 2006, 09:42:08 PM »

Quote from: Dakine

AJFA = ...

Marshall JMP/JCM Heads
Roland JC120 Combo
Marshall 4x12
Mesa Boogie 4x12
Mesa Boogie Heads slaved into Marshalls
White Gibson Explorer EMG
2xWhite and 1xBlack ESP Explorer

A JC120?! :o That is quite unexpected, my Dad used to have one whilst in a folk band many moons ago! It does go to show the level of experimentation and thought that Hetfield puts into getting his tone just right!

JJretroTONEGOD · « **Reply #27 on:** August 30, 2006, 09:45:09 PM »

Quote from:

Money i have to spend:[/b

In the range of 400-500 quid (unless there is something exceptional, in that case i will save more for it)

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the Cornford Harlequin is Exceptional! www.cornfordamps.co.uk

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #28 on:** September 04, 2006, 04:05:24 PM »

My list now looks like this, i don't know how or why but it seems like i'm going even further away from making the decision!

Marshall AVT 100 ----------------£289
Marshall DSL 40 -----------------£405
Laney LC50-II -------------------£415
Peavey Valve King 212 ---------£359
Ashdown FA60 DSP -------------£455
Ashdown FA40 DSP -------------£397

The reason why the Marshall AVT is in there is because it is cheap and nobody else in the band has tube amps yet, however, on the other hand it might be wiser to go tube now instead of waiting for them to get tube amps which would result in me then forking out more money for another amp again.

Dakine · « **Reply #29 on:** September 04, 2006, 04:09:23 PM »

Why the 'tube with band' issue?
Many great players play/played SS and NOT tube.
Be ya 'own' man/guitarist and feck the rest :)
Mesa III+ was NOT a mega costly amp till Hetfield came along.
Randall Loved Dime.
Just a thought.
Be yourself and get recognition for 'your' sound :twisted: