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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2006, 04:15:46 PM »
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Why the 'tube with band' issue?
Many great players play/played SS and NOT tube.
Be ya 'own' man/guitarist and feck the rest :)
Mesa III+ was NOT a mega costly amp till Hetfield came along.
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FWIW I've found that tube amps seem to have more presence in a band situation.

When I saw my mates cover band play ages ago he was playing his AVT halfstack and the other guitarist was playing a Fender valve combo of some kind, both were around the same volume when played individually but as soon as the other guitarist started playing you couldnt really hear the AVT :lol: Probably also has to do with the EQ settings though I suppose.

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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2006, 04:33:31 PM »
Just trying to say (no matter age/bank balance) that ALOT said here and online etc. is ALL conjecture and everyone needs (well should) do their own thing.
When not 'flush' or with 'large disposable income' it's NOT easy.
Also, as mentioned, many have done VERY well with SS, AKA Daryll in Pantera.
Just trying to say that $$$$$ gear does not = GREAT sound/player :)
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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2006, 04:42:39 PM »
I'm really interested in these B-52 amps, never heard of them before. Anyone got any sound clips?

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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2006, 05:13:45 PM »
Good advice Dakine :D
I'm just trying to make sure i'm getting a good amp here and that people havn't had bad expiriences with them or anything.
Sound wise, i will be the judge of that, and no one will influence my view on that because i know what i like.
But the build quality, how long the tubes will last etc. is what i need advice on because i don't know shite about that.
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« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2006, 11:19:18 PM »
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Just trying to say (no matter age/bank balance) that ALOT said here and online etc. is ALL conjecture and everyone needs (well should) do their own thing.


exactly- I normally say "you should look into X, Y and Z" rather than "amp Q is awesome, buy it now!"

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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2006, 11:26:59 PM »
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Quote from: Dakine
Just trying to say (no matter age/bank balance) that ALOT said here and online etc. is ALL conjecture and everyone needs (well should) do their own thing.


exactly- I normally say "you should look into X, Y and Z" rather than "amp Q is awesome, buy it now!"


This is true, but amp Q is bloody good - I played one the other week and it rocked...Buy one now Joe!

:lol: Back on Topic, I agree with everything mentioned, and don't really have anything constructive to add...I kinda wish I hadn't started typing this now :P
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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2006, 07:17:34 PM »
^ :lol:

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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2006, 10:04:34 PM »
lol!

Well i think i can make up my own decision now, so this thread can now be put to rest.
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« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2006, 01:13:42 AM »
Id probably sell my ENGL Screamer combo (and Z5 footswitch) if asked, i really need some cash and due to a change in family circumstances i'm NEVER home in a position to actually use it properly, so i'm using my Guitarport mostly.

It wont give you a Mesa tone as its not a Mesa, but it does metal very well, and for the money i dont think you will easily beat it.. of course, you might hate it.. but there you go :)

Id stay clear from an Ashdown FA...

I had a 40w (non DSP) one, the gain without a boost was 'ok' at best. The amps are aimed at a bass heavy 'nu-metal' sound.

They get very, very hot which can melt various plastic bits\glue and cause problems, i think the newer ones are better (mine had a fan on it which added noise.. but at least it didnt melt!!!!).. its not that its a BAD amp, just voiced strange and a tad unreliable, and you (imo) should be looking at something more versatile and more reliable, saving for the amp is one thing, repairing it is another headache!


Over the years i've had alot of gear, and realised one thing: its nice in theory to aim at 'sounds' on cds, but those sounds are tweaked and tweaked and recorded by pros and engineered, so you will only ever get 'pretty close'. At one point i had a JCM 800, sd-1 pedal and a LP with EMG 81s as i was a huge Zakk Wylde fan..didnt sound anything like him (or play like him!) and ditched the amp as being too limiting.

Its hard to explain... but imo a good sound is a good sound, so i can play metallica, maiden, ozzy etc on any amp that i can get a good metal sound from..they sound like they do, i sound like me playing their stuff (probaly makes NO sense lol) ;)

Hard choice though... decisions decisions!
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« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2006, 08:13:59 AM »
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Its hard to explain... but imo a good sound is a good sound, so i can play metallica, maiden, ozzy etc on any amp that i can get a good metal sound from..they sound like they do, i sound like me playing their stuff (probaly makes NO sense lol) ;)


That's exactly my theory on the matter :drink:

My Screamer can get a good metal tone (imo) and so, I use it for whatever metal I happen to be playing - so what if it doesn't sound the same as the actual band that originally recorded it :P
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« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2006, 01:42:45 PM »
Quote from: chrisola
Id probably sell my ENGL Screamer combo (and Z5 footswitch) if asked, i really need some cash and due to a change in family circumstances i'm NEVER home in a position to actually use it properly, so i'm using my Guitarport mostly.

It wont give you a Mesa tone as its not a Mesa, but it does metal very well, and for the money i dont think you will easily beat it.. of course, you might hate it.. but there you go :)

Id stay clear from an Ashdown FA...

I had a 40w (non DSP) one, the gain without a boost was 'ok' at best. The amps are aimed at a bass heavy 'nu-metal' sound.

They get very, very hot which can melt various plastic bits\glue and cause problems, i think the newer ones are better (mine had a fan on it which added noise.. but at least it didnt melt!!!!).. its not that its a BAD amp, just voiced strange and a tad unreliable, and you (imo) should be looking at something more versatile and more reliable, saving for the amp is one thing, repairing it is another headache!


Over the years i've had alot of gear, and realised one thing: its nice in theory to aim at 'sounds' on cds, but those sounds are tweaked and tweaked and recorded by pros and engineered, so you will only ever get 'pretty close'. At one point i had a JCM 800, sd-1 pedal and a LP with EMG 81s as i was a huge Zakk Wylde fan..didnt sound anything like him (or play like him!) and ditched the amp as being too limiting.

Its hard to explain... but imo a good sound is a good sound, so i can play metallica, maiden, ozzy etc on any amp that i can get a good metal sound from..they sound like they do, i sound like me playing their stuff (probaly makes NO sense lol) ;)

Hard choice though... decisions decisions!


How much would you be asking for this Screamer  :P

I was planning on getting the Ashdown Fallen Angel 60 watt 2 x 12, i know people who are happy with their Ashdown's. But that melting part didn't sound too good!
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« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2006, 04:55:08 PM »
Bumped!

My list now looks like this:

Laney LC50-II
Randall RG50TC
Peavey Valve King 212

There is also an Ashdown 40 watt for £299 somewhere too.

I will have the money for one of these soon, any more last words before i make my decision?
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« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2006, 04:57:42 PM »
VaaaaaaaaaaaalllllvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeKiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnggggggggg

That'd be my choice out of those - but then if you like the others more then go for one of those :P
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« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2006, 05:16:35 PM »
I'd probably take the randall...

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« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2006, 06:42:41 PM »
There's a randall in the Scary Shop in Smithfield if you want one, Dave...
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