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chrisola

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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2006, 07:52:33 PM »
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I went to find myself but I wasn't in.



I went for an IQ test, it came back negative.

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i can dig the 'pit stop' thing.

I think back a few years where i was suffering from migraines alot and my GP thought it was stress\depression related so he gave me some light anti depressant medication, it just made me hungry so i ate loads lol... stopped that quick, made no difference in helping me really.



BT we're right, its GOOD to talk... better out than in etc etc

I would explore mates \ free services before professional ones. Hell, start a blog and fill it with what you want, the net can still be anonymous and you can always delete afterwards or get feedback on your thoughts

I could go into a rant and turn EMO but i wont, lets just say i could do with one aswell... going to check out those links.[/quote]
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2006, 10:09:36 PM »
Are you trying to 'unlock' certain areas of your brain you didn't know existed or just tying to change the things you don't like about yourself for the better?

For what you are describing I'd say you are looking down the barrel of some kind of meditation perhaps? Save your cash and buy a new guitar when you feel a better :D

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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2006, 10:37:21 PM »
see a priest and drink a pot of tea, even if you're not catholic or whatever (i'm not).

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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2006, 11:09:41 PM »
Yeah, psychiatrist is not the way to go.
If you feel that you have serious emotional issues such as cripplingly poor self esteem, uncontrollable anger, severe anxiety etc, then you probably need to see a psychologist. You can access these through your GP, but you may need to wait 8-12 weeks for an appointment (although studies have shown that the very act of seeking help creates a measurable improvement in people). If you don't want to wait then you can probably find a private one though the yellow pages or at your nearest complimentary therapy centre.
 If you feel that you have some issues to work through, or there are aspects of your life that you are struggling to understand or come to terms with then a counsellor is probably the best initial option. These are usually accessed in the same way, although many large employers now offer counselling for staff as well, and the wait/cost will probably be less.
 Or, you can always go to the pub with me  8)
 There are numerous good self help books on the market as well, and as long as you steer clear of the wackier or slicker stuff then there's some really good info to be had. There's a really good sries on cognitive therapy which are titled "Overcoming..........With cognitive therapy techniques"
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2006, 11:25:08 PM »
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It's just that there are a few things about myself I'd like to explore and change, anyone know what I mean? .


I do know what you mean by the above, and I guess that many of the other members here can relate to a greater or lesser extent - whether they be 15 or 50.

We all find ourselves doing some things over and over, even when we know we shouldn't or that it doesnt bring the right outcome. You know- "that thing" that when you look back at what you have done you feel frustrated or disappointed with yourself.
We all get conditioned in one way or another and often the way we react to a particular stimulus is from a deep ingrained response rather than being  a response that is carefully thought through based on the evidence before you.

Things can trigger a response whether be it emotional, mental or even physical and somehow the thing that triggers you off isnt always so relevant to the state it puts you in.

For myself it has previously been responding to situations with a new girlfriend based on expectations of where a particular train of conversation  might be going based on the nightmare arguements with a previous girlfriend (who was a neurotic disaster).

I found that reading helped and what proved to be a complete  turning point was getting an iPod and finding some audio books that got me thinking differently ( I was travelling a lot at the time so had time to listen)
I tended to listen to the stuff, stop the player and think about it all and maybe listen again . Just got the grey matter processing in a different way.
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2006, 10:10:22 AM »
I have been told that the following are quite good (my wife has the former title)

Embracing change : Tony Burzan (part of the mind mapping series)
an I have been told that the Anthony Robbins books are pretty good.

One of the most useful bits of offical help I received was list making (this is featured in many self help books).
It helps you to decide how you are (really) feeling, your prioritys and what you need to do to improve things.

Other things like working too many hours coupled with not eating properly can cause what would normally be an irritation to become a monster.

Food supplements can make a considerable improvement in how you feel (Mr 38 seems to know about this).

The humble GP is usually an wonderful resource if help even if it's not a physical health matter. A company doctor (if you have the option) is often an even better option as they have more time to listen and are better resourced. Plus (I know this sounds very cynical) it often means you can get some assistance much earlier simply becasue it will save your employer money.

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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2006, 07:06:36 PM »
Rob's right about supplements.In theory they should not be needed if you have a good balanced diet.The reality is that a lot of so called fresh produce isn't and has little nutritional value left- which is good for Mrs 38th as she has a health store. The importance of good nutrition cannot be overemphasized- it will help with the prevention of the majority of commonplace ailments-physical and mental. If everyone ate only good fresh truly organic food, the annual health bill for the majority of countries would plummet and would therefore upset a lot of pharmaceutical companies so lets hope that doesn't happen :roll: Mrs 38th could go on for ages about essential fats and their effect upon mental wellbeing. All this is slightly off topic but it is something I feel strongly about and have spent a great deal of time looking into. Tony Buzan's books are all good too.
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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2006, 09:45:50 PM »
soul searching, meditation and a complete detox, no beer for months.. clear thinking, early nights and restraint.. just see what u discover about yourself.

better for your mental health than seeing someone who might diagnose you with something you dont have... but if u have serious problems go see someone.

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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2006, 12:33:28 AM »
As a practitioner of the practice being discussed, this thread caught my eye.  Is mental health care over there really as fouled up as it sounds?  Are the psychiatrists there really that stuck on medications only?  I've treated tons of people with many different modalities, from traditional psychotherapy to medications to full-spectrum light to naturopathics to ECT to, on occasion, a good, stiff "What in the hell is wrong with you?"  I've seen all of these things work well, and I've seen all of these things work poorly.  No matter why a person comes to see me, I figure it's my job to help them not need to see me!

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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2006, 03:30:56 AM »
Well this has been oddly popular.

As for more details, it's just things like I have a bit of a superiority complex, I tend to be a bit self absorbed, that sort of stuff. Really nothing serious, but I figure I'm 17 with a lot of time on my hands so I may as well do something about it. You guys are probably right, a psychiatrist is a bit extreme, so thanks for the various suggestions and witticisms, I'll bear them in mind. Except the no beer one, that's just stupid.

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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2006, 03:43:29 AM »
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...it's just things like I have a bit of a superiority complex


Great news, I have the perfect cure for that - just meet up with me and you will soon realise how vastly inferior you are to me in looks, intellect and talent!

I am also kind and benevolent - which is why I have taken this time out from my busy day to cure you…

Go in peace young man and let this affliction trouble you no more….. :roll:
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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2006, 04:02:28 AM »
...you forgot modest.

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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2006, 08:26:29 AM »
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As for more details, it's just things like I have a bit of a superiority complex, I tend to be a bit self absorbed, that sort of stuff.


Beleive me thats much better than an inferiority complex.

As for self absorbed that's being 17 ;) wives manage that well into old age :)

As for avoiding beer, although it's one of the 4 basic food groups (beer, donuts, caffine & kebabs) sometimes it's a good idea to avoid anything that is mood altering if you are not 'on form'

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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2006, 09:20:31 AM »
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As a practitioner of the practice being discussed, this thread caught my eye.  Is mental health care over there really as fouled up as it sounds?  Are the psychiatrists there really that stuck on medications only?


Unfortunitely it seems that the answer is often yes it is.

Partially I feel it's because of a lack of accountability in the Health Service, the sheer workload and the pressure to reduce costs all contribute. To me this means that once a course of action is settled upon it is seldom reappraised (there is no pressure to do so)

Ok treatment that improves matters is a good thing, but the right treatment is a much better option and that takes time, money and the will to discard an earlier diagnosis.

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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2006, 11:08:38 AM »
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Well this has been oddly popular.

As for more details, it's just things like I have a bit of a superiority complex, I tend to be a bit self absorbed, that sort of stuff. I'm 17 with a lot of time on my hands


I would recommend volunteering to give some time helping others.
There are plenty of opportunities to get involved helping others less advantaged or less able than yourself.
Whether it is helping with the elderly, young people (even coaching sports or activities) or people with disabilities

This would serve several purposes
Get you mixing with new people and seeing the complexity and value in their lives and allow you to focus less on your own abilities or qualities.
Give you perspective on what gifts you have been given and allow you to be grateful for them - gratitude is a very powerful emotion and can help balance your focus

You may still see yourself as more able and talented, but it my have the benefit of humility to go with it and the determination to use those skills and not allow them to go to waste

I guess you also have college type studies too unless you have joined the workforce already ....so you may not always have so much time on your hands
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