Failing at Re-stringing

[Crazy_Joe]

They are all on apart from the low e string, though i am not happy with the A & D windings, looks like there is too much string on it.

[Dakine]

read this again young Joe


TOO MUCH STRING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

or, just ignore me, makes no odds to me  :twisted:

[genocidal tendencies]

Joe, you do realise you can cut the ends of the strings off, right? Generally when I'm stringing my guitar I'll end up with about 15-20cm of each string that I'll cut. You don't need to wrap the whole thing around the pegs. In fact it's better if you don't, an evenly wrapped (so it looks like a slinky, with no wind overlapping any others) stringing with maybe 3-4 winds around each the peg will give much better tuning stability (something I seem to forget every single time I put on a G string. Must be too busy coming up with bad jokes).

The one your guitar teacher put on probably snapped because of a sharp bit of metal on the bridge or something similar, if it just snapped when you weren't doing anything with it.

edit - in light of the pics, that's your problem. Thread the string through the hole in the peg so you've got say 15cm hanging out the other side, then wind. Just watch out for sharp string ends poking you in the eye while you're doing it. Just before you start winding, if you hold the string in place at the peg, a good measure is (as dakine said) that you should be able to get the width of your hand under it, or maybe a bit less for the thicker strings.

[_tom_]

I have a stringing technique which I found out from off the internet, but I cant find the link anymore so I'll draw up a classic ms paint diagram for you :lol:

[FELINEGUITARS]

ooh, I kinda thought you were abit more experienced than this with all your posts and enquiries.

Funny thing - internet forums
Can almost be misleading without trying
You can post so much and be so prolific that you can give the illusion of being an expert when you are very new to the subject (and just enthusiastic)

Anyway - I always tell people that they need to wind 2 inches (5cm)of slack string onto posts of non locking tuners - other than the Kluson safti-post ones (split shaft) as fitted to many old Fenders

So measure 2"/5cm on the string past the tuner's entry hole and put a 90 degree bend in the string

Slide the string through the hole in the tuner up to the bend and bend the string that has passed through back the other way so that it looks like a zig-zag with the tuners post in the middle.

Then wind the string on allowing the first wind to go over the top of the string threaded through (the tail) and once it has passed over the next 1-2 winds go under the tail giving about 2-3 turns in all with the string being held slightly down at an angle by the winds under the tail.

Tune up to pitch

[Dakine]

^won't bloody help iffin he don't listen and cut the strings first :)


'I paid for it and dammit I'm gonna get me's money's worth!', sorry could'nt resist, NO harm meant :)

[Crazy_Joe]

Ok all of you moaning at me can shhhh because i tried shortening it and the low e won't fit in the nut. Explain that one.

[Dakine]

ooh, I kinda thought you were abit more experienced than this with all your posts and enquiries.

Funny thing - internet forums
Can almost be misleading without trying
You can post so much and be so prolific that you can give the illusion of being an expert when you are very new to the subject (and just enthusiastic)

Anyway - I always tell people that they need to wind 2 inches (5cm)of slack string onto posts of non locking tuners.  

So measure 2"/5cm on the string past the tuner's entry hole and put a 90 degree bend in the string

Slide the string through the hole in the tuner up to the bend and bend the string that has passed through back the other way so that it looks like a zig-zag with the tuners post in the middle.

Then wind the string on allowing the first wind to go over the top of the string threaded through (the tail) and once it has passed over the next 1-2 winds go under the tail giving about 2-3 turns in all with the string being held slightly down at an angle by the winds under the tail.

Tune up to pitch

Abit of a dig I know, but meant in sarcy british jest.
Trying bloody hard here to help, but so far to no avail.

[Dakine]

different issue Joe.
Did you try putting it in the nut on it's own, No tension,Not strung etc. Just the string itself?

[genocidal tendencies]

Out of interest, what's this talk of 90 degree bends? I don't see the point...

Ok all of you moaning at me can shhhh because i tried shortening it and the low e won't fit in the nut. Explain that one.

Ok, the space in your nut for the string is too narrow. Which is a bit odd, probably a factory c--k up.

[_tom_]

Well heres my simplified stringing diagram, hopefully its not too hard to figure out. Seems to hold my strings in tune well and is quick and easy to do.



Although not sure if this may be your problem but its worth a shot.

[Philly Q]

Ok all of you moaning at me can shhhh because i tried shortening it and the low e won't fit in the nut. Explain that one.

Joe, it might be that the nut slot is too small, but I notice you have the strings winding clockwise (on the left hand side of the tuners).  You'll get a straighter angle across the nut - at least for the low E and A strings - if you wind them anticlockwise (on the right hand side).

Hope that helps!

Phil

[Crazy_Joe]

different issue Joe.
Did you try putting it in the nut on it's own, No tension,Not strung etc. Just the string itself?

Yes and it didn't fit too well. I have to say the craftmanship on this nut looks pretty cr@ppy now looking at it.

[FELINEGUITARS]

Joe - you are winding the strings on the wrong way
they need to emerge from the other side of the tuning posts

Heres how to do it on the split shaft safeti-posts as fitted to your guitar

Measure 3 inches (7cm or about 3 fingers worth) past the post that the string goes into
Cut the string at 3 inches (7cm etc) past the post

Stick the end of the string down the middle of the post - there is a small hole
and bend the string down through the gap in the side of the machine head

Wind the string on allowing each wind to go under the previous one
Ensure that the strings are leaving the tuning peg from UNDERNEATH the peg - not above

[Dakine]

Out of interest, what's this talk of 90 degree bends? I don't see the point...

kinda double anchor point is all. There is NO definitive way to string, depends how taught ya/how ya learnt.

IMO, it aids holding for winding and anchors, just way I do it :)