Author Topic: So anyone using an Engl e570 preamp? (Read 6651 times)

SliderJeff · « **on:** September 23, 2006, 06:12:59 PM »

Hey guys,

I didn't want to clog up the Engl Screamer thread with more of my mindless ponderings... so I figured I'd start a separate thread. Does anyone here use an e570? Any thoughts on it as far as the range of tones and such? I'm still trying to figure out if ditching the rack rig and going to a head is the right thing for me.

Thanks,
Jeff

Word Bearer · « **Reply #1 on:** September 23, 2006, 06:16:19 PM »

I haven't tried the 570, but have tried the e530, which I believe is almost exactly the same, just without the MIDI capabilities.

It's a really modern sounding amp as you'd probably expect from Engl, loads of gain. I really liked it, but you may struggle getting bluesy tones and things from it.

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2006, 08:06:28 PM »

I have an E530 and it sounds great - pretty modern and yet can do the classic stuff

Hell Hound · « **Reply #3 on:** September 24, 2006, 06:41:43 PM »

I got one the ancester, Engl 620 tube pre. I can play pretty much any style with it. Loads of gain, more than a 530, pretty good clean too. Can't say much about the 570 but it should be great :)

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #4 on:** September 24, 2006, 07:13:39 PM »

I used to use a 570/Marshall EL34 100/100 rack combo, back when I had a Rivera Knucklehead. (Edit: That would be 2005, actually :) ) In the end I sold both the rack and the Rivera and purchased a Splawn Quick Rod.

Now then, about the sound.

The ENGL is a fantastic high gain preamp somewhat in the Marshall vein; it has a very open top end and a really tight midrange -- all the way from the lower midrange to the upper midrange.

If you want to hear what my Engl sounded like, you can check out this clip on my band's web site: http://www.twilight-odyssey.com/music.html. All of the harmony guitars are an ESP M1 Tiger going into the ENGL/Marshall rack.

My personal opinion is that the ENGL is perfect for power metal and euro metal, not much else. It's very tight, and is pretty versatile, but ultimately is a sound I equate with DragonFarce, Helloween, Rhapsody (both with and without the 'Of Fire' bit PDT_008), Circus Maximus, Edguy, Blind Guardian, Accept, etc etc

Ultimately there was a nasal quality about the ENGL that I never took to.

Hell Hound · « **Reply #5 on:** September 24, 2006, 07:34:38 PM »

what low wattage tube power amp would you recommand for one of those Engl pre? (in the 2x20w range) checked some Marshall but those got an big mid boost I don't really like :?

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #6 on:** September 24, 2006, 09:38:26 PM »

Quote from: Hell Hound

what low wattage tube power amp would you recommand for one of those Engl pre? (in the 2x20w range) checked some Marshall but those got an big mid boost I don't really like :?

VHT 2150
ENGL 840/50

SliderJeff · « **Reply #7 on:** September 24, 2006, 11:21:49 PM »

TwilightOdyssey & co,

Thanks for the replies.

TW, for some reason I can't connect to the link you gave me. Any ideas?

Also, as far as 2x20W recommendations, those two aren't even close, are they? One is 2x150W and the other is like 2x100W I think. Anyway, my el84 Mesa 20/20 is FRICKEN LOUD. Not sure if I would like an el34 or kt88 or 6L6 amp more.. since I've only ever owned this 20/20. Sorry I can't help out more.

FWIW, lots of people dig VHT amps with Mesa preamps. The lowest wattage VHT you will find is the 2/50/2 though.

Regs,
Jeff

SliderJeff · « **Reply #8 on:** September 24, 2006, 11:22:35 PM »

TO,

Never mind. I am an idiot and pasted the "." after music.html into my browser. Time for another pint. :)

Regs,
Jeff

Hell Hound · « **Reply #9 on:** September 24, 2006, 11:26:51 PM »

I'm leaning toward the Marshall EL84 but that damn mid range :? gotta try to find one of those Engl 2x30w from the 90's i guess...