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carlaz

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« on: October 13, 2006, 11:52:10 AM »
This is a demo for the first few verses of a song I wrote about 10 or 12 years ago, but never managed to perform or record with any of my bands or projects.  It's actually the first thing I started working on after I got my Crawlers at the start of this year, but somehow this song has always progressed in fits and starts.  I hope to get it completed before another 10 or 12 years pass!

Anyway .... the guitar is as always my Crawler-equipped 1990 Gibson LP Std.  Much of the song is heavy riffing, all bridge pup, double-tracked with two different GarageBand amp sims.  There are some lighter, cleaner-toned but heavily effected bits -- I fear I can't remember now which pup they were, and I might have even used the coil-tap there.  Drums are hand-programmed with ns_kit7 samples, and the bass is (as always) my '76 Rick 4001, also through a GB amp sim.  I feel like there ought to be some keys or synths, maybe piano, somewhere but I haven't figured that out yet.

I just ventured trying to record vocals the other day, and I freely confess my singing is even worse than the sloppy "done in one take over breakfast" guitar solo. Well ... if I could find someone else to sing, I would, but I haven't, so it had to be me ("No, it didn't!" I hear you cry ... ;)).  

At present, the current recording kind of peters out in a bit of drums and bass.  There's supposed to be a spacey, almost Doorsy, section there (with, alas, more vocals!) but I haven't worked it out yet, or even recorded any guitar for it.  This is meant to be a pretentious, excessive rock epic ;) so it will slowly return towards heavy guitar tones, and wind up with a final revisitation the initial heavy riff-verse-chorus pattern.  But I haven't gotten there yet.
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2006, 12:57:20 PM »
The quietest pickups I've ever heard, no noise whatsoever....

Is it supposed to be percussion only?

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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2006, 12:59:35 PM »
Hey Carlaz,
download your own clip!
I think you forgot something   :twisted:  ;)

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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2006, 01:56:32 PM »
Heh, how did I do that?  Ah, well, it's just the gods of rock trying to protect you from my dodgy vocals! ;)

OK, I think I've fixed it now ....
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2006, 03:14:18 PM »
Hey fellow GB user, what do you use to record vocals? mic, pre etc? I like your spacey stuff, got any AIFFs instead of the mp3s? :twisted:  :twisted:
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2006, 03:28:44 PM »
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Hey fellow GB user, what do you use to record vocals? mic, pre etc? I like your spacey stuff, got any AIFFs instead of the mp3s? :twisted:  :twisted:

My vocals are recorded with the old Shure BG 2.0 that I used with my first band back in the early '90s!  I run it straight into my Tasca
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Hey fellow GB user, what do you use to record vocals? mic, pre etc? I like your spacey stuff, got any AIFFs instead of the mp3s? :twisted:  :twisted:

I record vocals with an old Shure BG 2.0 that I used with my first band back in the early '90s!  I don't even have a mic stand, so I just hold it in my hand when recording the vox! ;)  I run it straight into my Tascam US-122 audio interface, thence into my iBook.  Very low budget! ;)

I have it in mind to get a cheap-but-decent condensor mic, like a Studio Projects B1, but haven't gotten around to that yet.  Oh, and a stnad and pop shield to go with it!  That would make be slightly less low-budget (but wouldn't improve my singing, I fear! ;)).

GB exports AIFFs to iTunes, so yes, I have AIFFs and could stick them on my web site whence they could be downloaded easily enough.  Heck, I could archive the GB .band archives and make them available as well.  Let me know what you want, and I'll sort it out somehow. :)

I'm reasonably happy with some of the GB amp-sim presets that I've tweaked up for guitar and bass.  It's not like I spent a lot of time agonizing over them, but I like them better than the stock ones (though, actually, I use the stock "Classic Rock" guitar amp sim preset quite a bit!).  I'm not sure if there's an easy way to export them, but they should (I hope, I think) come through in any shared GB .band archives.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2006, 03:35:22 PM »
Cool, is that using the 'save as archive'? I haven't tried it yet, I'm sure GB should allow easy sharing of files but I haven't figured it out yet.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2006, 03:48:42 PM »
Hails Carlaz.
I really liked the distortion
Pretty Black Sabbatish  Q:p
I  LikeD the track too man
Very good. it sounds kinda folk too on the vocal part right!?
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2006, 03:48:54 PM »
I really like this track! The Crawlers sound pretty good to me, havent heard many other clips of em though..

I dont mean to sound harsh but I'm not really a fan of your singing, it sounds a bit monotonous on the verses (bits with clean guitar), sounds fine on the bits with distorted guitar though. Then again I could do no better so I'll be quiet  :lol:

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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2006, 04:02:12 PM »
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I dont mean to sound harsh but I'm not really a fan of your singing, it sounds a bit monotonous on the verses (bits with clean guitar), sounds fine on the bits with distorted guitar though. Then again I could do no better so I'll be quiet  :lol:

Yeah, I'm not a fan of my singing either!  I'm completely inexperienced in singing :P and would replace me with almost anyone in a heartbeat.  To paraphrase Almost Famous, want someone else to be the singing front man and I'll be the guitarist with mystique. ;)

I probably only sound better on the distorted guitar bits because it's harder to hear me!  :roll:
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2006, 04:21:30 PM »
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Cool, is that using the 'save as archive'? I haven't tried it yet, I'm sure GB should allow easy sharing of files but I haven't figured it out yet.

I think you can "Save as" with GB in 2 different ways.  I think one way saves the .band archive with full quality AIFF audio, but not the multiple levels of undo, which can take up quite a bit of space, and the other way saves the audio as 128kbps AAC files (also without multiple levels of undo), which makes things a little easier to sling around, though at the cost of audio quality.

I've not tried this either, but I can give it a go!
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2006, 06:58:58 PM »
Well Carlaz, I think your vocals have their charm and besides which, we are supposed to be listening to the BKP's so hats off you my good man.Is that a Ric bass I hear?
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2006, 12:26:46 AM »
Hey have you been allowing a bit more top end through on this one (I much prefer the tone).

Vocals come with practice (so I'm told)

I see nobody else has commented about you reading too much HP Lovecraft ;)

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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2006, 01:44:04 PM »
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I see nobody else has commented about you reading too much HP Lovecraft ;)

It's impossible to read too much H P Lovecraft!  I got all excited (well, by my own torpid standards) when I saw the title.  Great stuff.
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2006, 02:30:22 PM »
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I really liked the distortion
Pretty Black Sabbatish  Q:p

Yeah, the amp-sim I used is one I designed to evoke a modern Iommi-style tone (which, clearly, will still sound very Black Sabbath!).  Overall, I was going for a kind of Sabbath/Blue Öyster Cult vibe.

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I  LikeD the track too man
Very good. it sounds kinda folk too on the vocal part right!?

Thanks, man!  :) Yeah, I've listened to a lot of folk music over the years, so it probably shows up in my vocals!  Actually, there's a Romanian folk-rock-prog band from the '70s called Phoenix that gets name-checked by a lot of current Eastern European metal bands -- I've often thought the vocal styles for Phoenix are possibly the kind of thing I could do.  I haven't got much range, but my voice at least isn't too thin or hideously out of tune, so with practice I might be able to sound OK, if not great!  That might be wishful thinking though.  I'd still replace me with someone who could actually sing well, if I could! ;)
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