Author Topic: Laney GH50L - awesome! clip on page 2 (Read 16297 times)

_tom_ · « **Reply #30 on:** November 14, 2006, 11:03:53 PM »

Ah, well as I've never played a real Marshall I dont really have a clue :P

I found this clip and whilst it is too high gain and bassy for me, it sounds much different to what I'm getting from it, and seems as though with less gain and bass it could get closer to the kinda harder rock tones I was hoping for (plus my LP will help) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwzwNknA-HA

indysmith · « **Reply #31 on:** November 15, 2006, 07:34:41 AM »

dude i love that tone - it's a beast!

_tom_ · « **Reply #32 on:** November 15, 2006, 07:36:21 AM »

Which one, mine or the other video of a more metal tone?

Twinfan · « **Reply #33 on:** November 15, 2006, 09:33:07 AM »

That metal tone is superb. Is he really only using the amp for that? I'm going to try and dial that in tonight...

_tom_ · « **Reply #34 on:** November 15, 2006, 09:54:28 AM »

Yeah. I sent him a message to see what else he was using, he replied with:

"Im using the stock valves (4xEcc83 and 2xEL34). Then I got Framus 2x12 cab loaded with V30s ( http://www.thomann.de/thoiw3_artikel-179559.html ). That's the cheapest one I could find :P Then i got the settings like this: Resonance: off , Presence: 0 , Bass/mid/treble: 6 , pre gain/drive: 5 (and I'm not using any pedals in front of the cab). The sound depends a lot on your guitar. You need to have hot pickups in it. And of course you have to play a bit harder. I might be able to help you more if you send your settings to me (ampsettings, pedals you use, and the model of the guitar)"

Twinfan, let me know if you can get that kinda tone using either of your cabs!

dave_mc · « **Reply #35 on:** November 15, 2006, 12:03:09 PM »

I can get that type of tone pretty easy with my engl savage se. I'm using vintage 30's in my laney tt cab, so I'm guessing since he was using v30's too, they couldn't hurt...

Twinfan · « **Reply #36 on:** November 15, 2006, 01:03:25 PM »

Quote from: _tom_

Twinfan, let me know if you can get that kinda tone using either of your cabs!

My Marshall 2x12 has V30s so I should be able get pretty close. I'll try those settings tonight and let you know. Not sure which guitar to try it with as most of mine have low output pickups.

Ah - got it. I'll try it with my Jackson DKMG which has EMG HZs in it. Should be great for a metal tone

_tom_ · « **Reply #37 on:** November 15, 2006, 01:28:39 PM »

Try it with whichever guitar your Mule is in :P

As for speakers, I guess V30s would get me closer to the tone I want, but I thought they were more suited to metal, whereas I play classic rock, hard rock and cheesy 80s stuff :)

How about a V30 in the bottom of my cab (heard its quite bassy so would be good for the bottom) then a more rounded top speaker?

I heard fps_deans clips and his Classic Lead cab sounds perfect although I dont know the voicing of those speakers..

Twinfan · « **Reply #38 on:** November 15, 2006, 01:51:11 PM »

I'll try the Mule equipped GS-1 too then mate ;)

V30s don't just do metal. Angus uses them live and I wouldn't say he had a metal tone. They're also used by default in Orange cabs by the indie bands. I've used my 2x12 live with my Klipp head and it certainly doesn't sound woolly or metally!

I find that V30s need to be cranked to get the best out of them because at low volumes they don't move enough to let the higher frequencies come out so they sound bassy/middly.

Davey · « **Reply #39 on:** November 15, 2006, 03:04:50 PM »

from paul gilbert, to opeth and then some :D

that's the GH! :twisted:

_tom_ · « **Reply #40 on:** November 15, 2006, 03:55:17 PM »

My Behringer EQ arrived today, it made so much difference! Higher gain tones are now much smoother and usable for me. I did some videos but the mic clipped loads :( Not sure if I really need to bother with new speakers now as the eq made it all sound like what I wanted :D

Twinfan · « **Reply #41 on:** November 15, 2006, 04:35:20 PM »

Told you ;)

Speakers are a part of the equation, obviously, but EQ on the amp or externally can make a big difference.

_tom_ · « **Reply #42 on:** November 15, 2006, 04:43:44 PM »

Yeah, I'll probably still try a different speaker some time if I find some good ones for cheap but for now I'm happy with the setup, amazing what difference a £15 EQ makes :D

Gotta try and resist taking the Laney back out of its box in the living room till the 27th now :lol:

I probably want the footswitch, but searching on ebay and google havent brought up any results for the FS-1. Any ideas which other single button footswitch will work for the footswitchable gain boost?

Twinfan · « **Reply #43 on:** November 15, 2006, 04:47:08 PM »

Any single button switch will work Tom. A Marshall one or Fender one for example, anything with the standard jack connector. Should be easy to get hold of.

Twinfan · « **Reply #44 on:** November 15, 2006, 08:08:58 PM »

Right - I've tried getting that tone out of my GH50L and I'm close but to be honest I'm no "nu-metal" player so there's no way I can get it!

Watching the YouTube video again it sounds like he's drop tuned to something, and the way he's playing chords suggests it not just a tone down at DGCFAD - maybe some kind of open tuning? I know nothing about those kind of things!

I tried his EQ settings with the Gain at 7 and the Drive at 5 and got a decent metal tone in standard tuning - pinched harmonics squeal like mad it sound great. That tone will sound pretty different when the amp's cranked though, it'll sound a lot cleaner as the notes get more defined.