The "Wrong" gear?

[jt]

It is imortant to get the sound, however some people substitute that for image, you need to fit the image too imo, because you will get labelled as something you don't want to be.[/quote

 :D Why ?

When people hear your CD`s they wont  no what you used there`ll only hear the sound.

The problem with trying to fullfill an image is that the "right" gear image wise tends to be the worst sounding & in Gibsons case the most shodiest made gear. YOU need to be smarter than that.

 :D  8)

[Davey]

Laney > any new Marshall

[sambo]

Gibsons case the most shodiest made gear.

 :D  8)

well... i know a lot of people complain about their quality control... but they're not the MOST shoddiest made gear... may have the worst price/quality ratio but thats a different story...

[sambo]

oh and as for image i agree with JT... trying to have the right image just feels weird to me... i buy something guitar related cause it sounds/feels nice e.t.c...

[willo]

This is true, sound is most important. But I must confess, that there is something about hooking a Gibson into a Marshall half stack. I think most people would feel this too...I mean, my custom strat is probably better than almost all Fender's out there now (save Custom Shop I guess), and yet still sometimes I lament the fact that it doesn't have Fender on the headstock.

I guess it's a fine line between 'living the dream' and 'playing at being a rock star', if that makes sense?

[headtheball]

Fret not, the man in question was requested to feck right off and buy me a pint of guiness before the rest of the band ate him (and they looked like they could).

The way I see it, I was pushing the Life out of the laney, and a Marshall half-stack would have needed turned down. The P-90's made the sound more attacking and distinct, and (most importantly) the other guitarist was using a Marshall Half Stack and a Les Paul, so another would have just sounded like bassy, sludgy soup (LP's don't take downtuning very well, in my opinion).

By the way, anyone finding their sound a bit bright should maybe check out a bass cab as an extension. Adds a lot of moving air. But I wouldn't say it was the only or "right" option ;-)

[sambo]

This is true, sound is most important. But I must confess, that there is something about hooking a Gibson into a Marshall half stack. I think most people would feel this too...I mean, my custom strat is probably better than almost all Fender's out there now (save Custom Shop I guess), and yet still sometimes I lament the fact that it doesn't have Fender on the headstock.

I guess it's a fine line between 'living the dream' and 'playing at being a rock star', if that makes sense?

i get what your saying Willo... kinda agree as well... but then on the other hand i like having stuff thats more obscure and unheard of... to be different from other people... which can give an equally good feeling as the Gibson+Marshall style vibe we're talking about.

[Hell Hound]

but then on the other hand i like having stuff thats more obscure and unheard of... to be different from other people... which can give an equally good feeling as the Gibson+Marshall style vibe we're talking about.

I like obscure gears too, my guitar collection is just like that : a weird handmade polish guitar (a Mayones, i love it), a double neck  with 2 6 strings neck (one is baritone :lol: ) and a fairly rare Ibanez RG3120 (never seen any other one beside mine and a few played by Patrick Ronda)
It's better this way, I love the questions and compliments hehe. So I can suck at guitar and still beign popular :lol:

[sambo]

It's better this way, I love the questions and compliments hehe. So I can suck at guitar and still beign popular :lol:

 :lol:  :lol: precisely!!!!

[Crazy_Joe]

I know what some of you are getting at, but you DO need the image aswel as the sound, i'm not saying buy good looking things which suck in sound quality, i'm saying maybe getting something in a cool shape which is made by a good company which will make it sound good to fufil the image but still sound sexy. If that makes any sense  :P

[froglord]

Obscure gear rules!

I think a lot of guitar and amp companies are trading off their name and their history, when in fact their glory days have passed. The good thing about smaller companies is that they have no choice but to sell their stuff based on quality and customer support.

The classic combinations (Rock = Les Paul + Marshall, Metal = Ibanez + Mesa) exist for a good reason - because they work well. But that doesn't mean nothing else can.

Don't tell me music is about conformity. Stick it to the man!  :D

[Fourth Feline]

If they know so much whay are they always in the audience ?

I wouldn't dream of slagging of somebodys setup, unless they where doing something truely bizzarre (like using Line 6 & BC Rich kit ;) )

Well said Kilby !

When I was last gigging, I found that actual working guitarists where interested in my modest rig but not really critical. I had a very 'choosy' but gigging guitarist come up and ask about/examine my MIJ Strat into Laney LH50R half stack.
(He had top of the range Mesa Boogie and Gibson everything with only boutique pedals when I went to see his band).

Being genuine, he was just interested in how mutually effective our contrasting  approaches were.

With real musos, it's about exploration not verbal exploitation.

I have however encountered a handfull of boozed up people who are not real players - and they just want to engage you in a pointless argument to demonstrate the fact that they "know their stuff"

- stroll on ...   :D

[dave_mc]

Obscure gear rules!

I think a lot of guitar and amp companies are trading off their name and their history, when in fact their glory days have passed. The good thing about smaller companies is that they have no choice but to sell their stuff based on quality and customer support.

The classic combinations (Rock = Les Paul + Marshall, Metal = Ibanez + Mesa) exist for a good reason - because they work well. But that doesn't mean nothing else can.

Don't tell me music is about conformity. Stick it to the man!  :D

seconded. nice post.

:drink:

[Fourth Feline]

Obscure gear rules!

I think a lot of guitar and amp companies are trading off their name and their history, when in fact their glory days have passed. The good thing about smaller companies is that they have no choice but to sell their stuff based on quality and customer support.

The classic combinations (Rock = Les Paul + Marshall, Metal = Ibanez + Mesa) exist for a good reason - because they work well. But that doesn't mean nothing else can.

Don't tell me music is about conformity. Stick it to the man!  :D

seconded. nice post.

:drink:

Thirded ! another very valid point. probably why we all buy BKPs as well  :D

[_tom_]

This thread makes me think of the other guitarist in my band. He bought a DSL head over a GH50L simply because it was a Marshall and it would therefore sound better. Plus it matched his cab! 1!! :lol: But it works for him and he seems to be happy with his sound, although I'm not a fan of it really (he has about 4 behringer pedals which dont really have good bypass).