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headtheball

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« on: November 14, 2006, 01:09:15 AM »
We've all been there at least once.

Some genius decides to tell you your rig is "wrong" for the purposes you set it to. Sometimes it's fanboyism, other times they're just aghast that you're "abusing" or "tainting" equipment (Not like RorySRV on the tie-dye strat thread. I mean people who do this stuff sincerely)

I was playing last week, and had some scuttering gobsheen tell me off because I dared to play stoner-ish rock with
a: A hollowbody(My eggle)
b: P-90 pickups(BKP, of course)
c: A Laney VC-30(I don't think he noticed I was running a 1x15 cab as an extension)
d: Only a clean boost and a wah

I think the thrust of his argument would be that I'd sound better (or in his words, not shitee) with a Les Paul with huge 'buckers, a floor full of fuzz pedals and a Marshall. Because that's what someone he's seen plays with instead.

So, anyway, the point. If you're getting "your sound", most people like it and it fits in the mix of the band, do you have the "right" gear, or is there still wisdom in recieved wisdom?
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2006, 02:17:31 AM »
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is there still wisdom in recieved wisdom?

There are two kinds of opinions: personal opinions, and expert opinions. Personal opinions abound. Expert opinions are much harder to come by. If you're not soliciting someone's opinion, regardless of what it is, then you don't have to listen to it. If you are, then you've opened yourself up to a lot of misinformation and biased viewpoints.

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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2006, 03:05:01 AM »
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I was playing last week, and had some scuttering gobsheen tell me off because I dared to play stoner-ish rock with ....


LMAO "Scuttering Gobsheen" god I love it :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2006, 03:14:35 AM »
:D Do you like your sound ? if the awnser is yes then tell `em to F*** Off !

 :D  8)
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2006, 07:35:20 AM »
I always take the view "well I am up here doing it and getting paid- you are not-I didn't seek out your opinion and therefore I will politely listen to you but I will take no notice of you whatsoever". Having said that, I haven't had one of those for years-mostly I get guys coming up saying that my Strat (or Tele) sounds great -I use a Laney VC30 too btw.
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2006, 09:27:49 AM »
headtheball dont worry about it dude..

i used a limited run strat with a miracle man into an engl when i was playing live with my metal band and got told to use line6 and bc rich.. ;)

just ignore them.

and someone else a few weeks later said "didn't know strats could sound heavy, thought only metal looking guitars sounded heavy"..

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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2006, 09:56:05 AM »
I have a "regular" at our gigs who asks me if I'm "still using that shitee Laney" and I "should get a 100 watt Marshall".  According to him, I can't be Angus without a Marshall.  He didn't seem to bothered by the lack of school uniform though which I thought would make more of a difference to the Angus-ness!  Our bass player is just as bad.  He reckons I need a regular Gibson SG not my souped up, BKP'd Epiphone.  The fool...

At our last gig I had a guitarist come up to me between sets and tell me that our rendition of Riff Raff was "absolutely spot on" - especially the tone.

Who says you can't do Angus without a Marshall and a Gibson?

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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2006, 11:04:25 AM »
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So, anyway, the point. If you're getting "your sound", most people like it and it fits in the mix of the band, do you have the "right" gear, or is there still wisdom in recieved wisdom?

If you're getting "your sound" and you're happy, then you're definitely using the right gear!  Lots of people are never happy with their sound.

As for using P90s to play stoner-ish rock, it's good enough for Bruce Franklin.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2006, 11:07:41 AM »
If they know so much whay are they always in the audience ?

I wouldn't dream of slagging of somebodys setup, unless they where doing something truely bizzarre (like using Line 6 & BC Rich kit ;) )
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2006, 11:34:12 AM »
I hate that about guitar players, especially the spotty teenage variety who are experts on everything - you don't hear violinists saying 'only a stradivarius can do that, if you haven't got one don't even bother trying'.
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2006, 12:37:29 PM »
I'd say :"Screw him!"
I know a guy who play in a Slipknot/punk/core kind of band, and he use a P90 loaded SG, tube overdrive into a mesa dual recto. His sound is one of the best I've eard in years for that kind of music :evil:
I personnaly don't give a shite about what people tell me about my gears, I know more than most of them (I admit I'm a gear freak hehe)
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2006, 12:50:38 PM »
I was at a jam session in our local bar this sunday. A guy asked me if he could try my amp n' stuff. It's a Fender HRDLX on a 2X12 cab and a Hughes n' Kettner Tube Factor overdrive. He plugged in his Ibanez super strat thing and played Sweet Child o' Mine on the neck single coil.

The gear couldn't be more wrong but the tone was spot on.
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2006, 04:34:05 PM »
It is imortant to get the sound, however some people substitute that for image, you need to fit the image too imo, because you will get labelled as something you don't want to be.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2006, 05:22:33 PM »
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you don't hear violinists saying 'only a stradivarius can do that, if you haven't got one don't even bother trying'.


 :lol:  :lol:

but i choose to 'not hear' violinists in general tbh...

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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2006, 05:40:53 PM »
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We've all been there at least once.

a: A hollowbody(My eggle)
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Give me an Eggle over a Gibson anyday.  We have a saying at work for people like him and it goes "YOU, ARE A c--k"

Need a Gibson and a Marshall my arse, give me my eggle and a Vox and I'll be more than happy.

Tone is so subjective that what sounds perfect to me is ear garbage to another.
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