Author Topic: nailbomb and mississippi queen combo: confused! (Read 17271 times)

nick_24589 · « **on:** November 25, 2006, 06:33:21 PM »

hey guys i know everyone is helpful on here so hopefully someone can help! i got adivised for the nailmbomb(bridge) and mississippi queen(bridge) combo but at the guitar college i go to, i got told to go for seamore duncan or dimazro pick ups. i got told that the pickups wouldnt ever sound 'properly clean', when i want to get a by-passed clean sound, is this true? i was wondering if anyone has either of these pickups and can tell me if you can get a true clean sound from your guitar still and if they are definatley worth the money. i have also been told if i fit these in to my guitar, the 5 way pick up selector switch will become usless. is this true :? i appreciate the help as i really want some new pick ups for christmas, thanks everyone! :D

Davey · « **Reply #1 on:** November 25, 2006, 06:46:45 PM »

they are 150% worth the money!!

Bird · « **Reply #2 on:** November 25, 2006, 06:51:09 PM »

Sounds like someone is propogating Duncan/Dimarzio propoganda. I don't own either of those pickups (BKPs) but the ones are do own are amazing and worth every penny. The 5 way switch thing is a real gem of misinformation. It will work fine as long as it's wired, if not it won't. You just have to order the pickups with 4 condutor wire and not 2. I have the 5 way wired on my MM/Trilogy/MM fitted Ibanez and all is well. :twisted: :twisted:

dave_mc · « **Reply #3 on:** November 25, 2006, 08:32:36 PM »

who told you to go for DM or SD at the college, out of interest?

if it's one of the fellow students, I'd take it with a pinch of salt.

if it's one of the teachers/lecturers, I'd take it with a pinch of salt.

Elliot · « **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2006, 08:44:40 PM »

Here's the choice:
By BKPs - get astounding definition, pure tone - clean or wound up - spend a little bit more on something that will leave you smiling months later when you elicit a new tone
By SD or (esp) DiMarzio - get mush, get indefinition - spend a lot of money on something a bit better than stock pickups.

Whoever told you that is a moron - unfortunately its a common feature amongst so many guitarists - so hear for yourself - try and demo them at a dealer who has some in a guitar for you to play.

Philly Q · « **Reply #5 on:** November 25, 2006, 08:46:00 PM »

What guitar do you have, and what pickups does it have at the moment? If it's two humbuckers connected to a 5-way switch, you won't be able to get exactly the same wiring options, because the Mississippi Queen is a single-coil (but you could get a tapped version, which would give different options).

The thing about not getting clean sounds is just nonsense. The MQ will give you great cleans and so will the NB as far as I know, especially with a coil-split option.

As for Duncans or DiMarzios, they may or may not suit you better than the NB/MQ combo - it all depends on the actual models you choose. All three companies have big ranges of pickups.

One thing's certain, if you pick the right BK pickups for you, they'll be at least as good - and almost certainly better - than anything from another manufacturer.

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2006, 08:57:27 PM »

This sounds suspiciously like someone tring to whack the ole hornet's nest, but what the heck, I'll bite ...

What a load of cr@p. If you are looking for a pickup to play dead clean, a Nailbomb is probably not the right pickups. However, in any category, at any price, BKs bury DiMarzio and Duncans.

dave_mc · « **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2006, 08:59:14 PM »

^ yeah... i guess it depends whether the guys at college recommended a specific dimarzio or duncan or not... if they recommended a duncan jazz or something, then obviously it's a more clean-voiced pickup...

jt · « **Reply #8 on:** November 25, 2006, 10:07:34 PM »

:D If your after nothing but clean sounds then dont go for a Nailbomb. What type of music are you playing ? What type of guitar do you have that your thinking of putting BK`s in ?

As for the "Get A set of Duncans/DiMarzio`s" forget it !!
I use to use DiMarzio`s all the time. I`ve removed all of `em from my guitars & got BK`s fitted instead. Dont waste your money on Duncans/DiMarzio.

:D 8)

Orpheo · « **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2006, 11:17:44 PM »

just ONE little remark about 'clean' and BKP. a friend of mine put a set of warpigs in his les paul, and that axe has a better clean now for JAZZ than his stock L5. The amp he uses is by the way a mesa mark4.

ps: i'd buy BKP any time of the week. the customersupport is just well... words can't describe how great it is. just to let you know ;) and the sound...

well. the first time I put in a dimarzio, i was knocked of my feet! WOW a wall of sound. lots of thickness in my les paul, clearity, and playing was never as easy.

THEN i put a set of nailbombs in that SAME axe. where was all my thickness?were was all my tone? apparantly I'd forgotten how to play. how to make TONE. BKP makes me PLAY instead of just squeezing out notes and pretending it is music. its always a pleasure now to play with them. they make me play the best I can, otherwise i dont get the sound I want.

in other words:
dimarzio/SD=instant tone, no development of YOUR tone.
BKP: no instant tone. you have to work for it.

for ME, as a musician, thats what I want. but for others it might not be what they want. but I guess those people are rare.

OD-Black_Fire · « **Reply #10 on:** November 26, 2006, 12:03:19 AM »

A pickup is a pickup. You do not have to work pickups. They are not like women. BKPs are only more like "your tone" because you can get them customized and are just awesome.

MDV · « **Reply #11 on:** November 26, 2006, 01:00:54 AM »

I dissagree. I think Orpheo is right. The clarity and precision of a BK is one of the most distinctive and valuable things about them. BUT you better play well or precisely the same thing that shows every note and every nuance in playing shows every mistake.

Its a small one of the reasons I like them. Seperates the wheat from the chaff.

If youre a good enough player that you didnt notice that, then cool (so am I, lets start a club :lol: ) but I've heard people switch to BKs and they went form sounding like they were playing well with an inarticulate, muddy tone, to playing badly with a fantastic one.

gingataff · « **Reply #12 on:** November 26, 2006, 02:46:45 AM »

I think to clarify this point I'd say that BKPs allow your own style and tone to show through more readily than other brands which tend to smear over it with a thick layer of plastic sounding gloop.

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but at the guitar college i go to, i got told to go for seamore duncan or dimazro pick ups. i got told that the pickups wouldnt ever sound 'properly clean', when i want to get a by-passed clean sound, is this true?

i have also been told if i fit these in to my guitar, the 5 way pick up selector switch will become usless.

Who exactly told you this? The cleaner?

(no offence meant to cleaners of course, I'm sure there are some who are great guitar players :) )

Just for the record I have a nailbomb bridge and it can play clean as long as you have a very clean amp setting but if you have a little bit of gain it will push it into crunch. If you wired a push/pull to run the pup in parallel you would get a cleaner sound, I've yet to try this however.

MDV · « **Reply #13 on:** November 26, 2006, 03:14:28 AM »

Oh, yeah. On topic:

Whoever told you you cant clean up with a BK is ON CRACK. End of story.

gingataff · « **Reply #14 on:** November 26, 2006, 07:18:01 AM »

I'll be posting some clean clips of my Nailbomb, soonish.....

Author Topic: nailbomb and mississippi queen combo: confused! (Read 17271 times)

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