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octavio_amzer

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« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2006, 10:00:06 AM »
thanks JP  8)

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« Reply #61 on: December 05, 2006, 07:31:32 PM »
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MDV... i also would like to ask for your #$%!& help on the string gauge thing.

i have this Ibanez S1220Wnf prestige. maple /rosewood neck/fretboard.
22 jumbo frets.
scale mus be a 25,5 or a 25,75ī
and iīm having problems with itīs tightness
strings NEVER soung tighter.
i use .73 and .88 strings. but i donīt use the pointy part of the pickps, but Both sides of it.  donīt know if you understood. the sound sounds a lot tighter and bigger
and i preffer it than using thicker picks.

iīm using that guitar with Standard daddario 0.13 strings.
what would you recomend me?
i tried to pull out one of the 4 springs.. and it didnīt work that much. still flabby strings. And note, increased the Height on it .... itīs more than 2mm tallness.
itīs $%&#ign weird.Ah.. forgot to say that itīs tuned to B standard(Carcass-Heartwork)

$%&#ign Hails
JP


Fucking hails to you mate!

Thing with massively detuning a guitar is you lose tightness: Extremely thick strings help (currently listening to NILE: drop A, 70, 50, 30 wound strings, invaders, no less, DSLs, mahogany and maple guitars, and the bass is kinda floppy).

With a normally scaled guitar you have to use uber-strings when you go below about c# (and pretty heavy strings at that point, too), so you get a massive booming low end (a la nile). The only exception to this that I've heard is my extra-dense swamp ash body, mahogany, maple and walnut neck, ebony FB Legra with a ceramic pig. I've tuned that to drop A with 11-60 and it wasnt 'tight' but it was the tightest I've ever heard that tuning (its very tight in c#, drop B).

The answer for ultra tightness at those sorts of tunings with a mortal guitar is scale length. Pickups can help, but not as much.

But for that tuning (standard B, drop A) I use 13-70 normally and 11-60 now that I know I can take the legra down there with that and it still sounds defined. Both in very tight guitars (the legra and a swinsehead Xbucker equiped epi beast), and thats as tight as I've heard 25.5 get.

P.S. Surely you mean you use .73 and .88 picks, not strings?

I agree with daamon: picks and pickin style have a massive effect on tightness. I'm not gonna patronise you with any picking advice  :lol:  I know you can play! But I will say that I get the best results with 1.0mm dunlop ultex. I think that .88 is the lowest thickness anyone looking to play tight metal on very thick strings should think about!

EDIT: Beware! I had to re-cut the nut (obviously) and take a dremmel to the machine head of the epi to get the 70 in! And Bob had to strip down a schaller locking tuner to get the 60 in the legra, and when I put the (super cool looking, and as it turns out, handy) fine tuner tailpiece on the bridge, I had to dremmel it out for a 60! Electric guitars just dont come out of the box to take strings much thicker than about 54/56 (your max safe bet). And they damn well should :twisted:

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« Reply #62 on: December 06, 2006, 12:49:23 AM »
Ohhhhhh $%&#gin Thankīs MDV
so, whatīs your tip for me?
the tone gets muddy when i use 1.0 .. it gets too BASSY and etc. i play better with the .73.or .79 dunlop
they are $%&#gin Excellent pickups
i didnīt like the JAZZ III AT $%&#GIN ALL

So.. my ibanez has a floyd, and i think iīll not have any problems with the string spacing.
but.. what brand of strings Do you use?
itīs hard to find 013-70  they are hybrid right?

JP

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« Reply #63 on: December 06, 2006, 08:14:15 PM »
My pleasure dude.

My tip is, in short, something - 70.

I use half a zack wylde GHS set and half a set of 12s or 13s. I try to keep the 3rd plain, but thats just my prefference.

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« Reply #64 on: December 07, 2006, 03:44:53 AM »
i like the third plain too but.. how do you
choose that!?
i mean, where should i buy it? do i need to buy 2 packs of strings?

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« Reply #65 on: December 07, 2006, 01:56:52 PM »
my tuppence worth, would be that if you can live with it, use a wound third.

To my ears any plain string above 20/22 sounds dead, all the time. I went through ages of truss rod adjustments, nut filing, bridge alterations...convinced my G was choking, till I eventually just accepted that thats how thick plain strings sound.

Thats over a variety of guitars in all sorts of tunings. (I play 12-54 or 13-56 in E)

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« Reply #66 on: December 10, 2006, 04:05:22 AM »
Actually i am very happy with a wound 3!I had allways issues with a plain one ,and it was really the only string wich lost the intonaiton every 10 minutes.The wound 3. (i play dean markley blue steels now) sounds awesome,more complex harmonics and bigger balls.
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« Reply #67 on: December 11, 2006, 06:15:28 PM »
Hey nothing wrong with a wound 3rd. Never said there was! I just prefer plain.

Its probably easier to find a wound 3rd string set (hint: 7 string!).

I wouldnt worry too much about the skinnt strings though, Nile play in 10-70 in drop-A. Half a set of 10s, the other is 30 50 70. And shred with it on scalloped fretboards! Those guys must have incredibly precise technique: even better than it seems to be from listenning to them  8)

Its all about the 4th 5th and 6th

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« Reply #68 on: December 12, 2006, 10:33:48 AM »
Well i'm using a set of 13 - 56's (B to B) and a 70 on the low F# (i tune down my 7 string). The B onmy 7 string has decent tension, but i prefer a 60 on the low B with a wound 3rd string.