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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2007, 07:29:26 PM »
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How does the 'Pig handle classic rock? (70's, 80's)

I like my nailbomb because it still has that classic vibe, but with a nice heavy edge.

I'm tempted to buy a new guitar just so I can put a ceramic 'pig in...


I'm not quite sure how the bridge would handle classic rock. I'd guess that with the volume rolled off a tad, it may handle it well.

To be honest, I didn't really grab this pickup for that...I got this set for metal and (at times) funk. For classic rock I have my Les Paul Special with Mississippi Queens and my Les Paul Studio with the MM/CS combo. I think the MM handles classic rock pretty well with the volume rolled down to 7.

From what I have been told by a Gibson SG user who reffered me to BKP in the first place, the Alnico Warpigs are GREAT for classic rock. My neck Warpig is Alnico but it's wound in a way to give it more top end (ala Cold Sweat neck) but with more power so it's the ultimate shred pickup!  :twisted:

In the future (near future) I plan on grabbing the Nailbomb set for their versatility.


Nice! So, if I wanted to order something custom, I'd just have to make my order through an email instead of the website's checkout area? Just give info and credit card details in the email?

By the way, what you are describing the neck pickup like sounds PERFECT to me. I want a hot, clear, cutting shred pickup, and it's a huge plus that you said it sounds great tapped. When tapped, can it do really clean clean well or does it breakup a bit because of still a high output? Also, you got me considering the warpig ceramic... would you say it's tighter? I always put off the regular warpig because I heard it had a lot of bass... and I don't want that... I want it to be tight and balanced, having some good aggressive mids and crunch...

Sorry for the questions. just... I feel bad if I keep bothering tim with questions like this, and up until now I was considering either a NB/CS set or a MM/CS set and your post about your custom winds have got me really interested!  :?

Let me know what you think when you get a chance :)

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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2007, 11:39:11 PM »
^ ^ ^ ^ ^

I emailed Tim before ordering my BKP's and asked how I would go about getting a different HSS set than one of the 'default' ones, and he said that when you order, there's a comments box where you can ask for a different set, I assume that's what you'd do if you wanted a custom wind.

Muz  :D
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2007, 04:32:01 AM »
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Nice! So, if I wanted to order something custom, I'd just have to make my order through an email instead of the website's checkout area? Just give info and credit card details in the email?

By the way, what you are describing the neck pickup like sounds PERFECT to me. I want a hot, clear, cutting shred pickup, and it's a huge plus that you said it sounds great tapped. When tapped, can it do really clean clean well or does it breakup a bit because of still a high output? Also, you got me considering the warpig ceramic... would you say it's tighter? I always put off the regular warpig because I heard it had a lot of bass... and I don't want that... I want it to be tight and balanced, having some good aggressive mids and crunch...

Sorry for the questions. just... I feel bad if I keep bothering tim with questions like this, and up until now I was considering either a NB/CS set or a MM/CS set and your post about your custom winds have got me really interested!  :?

Let me know what you think when you get a chance :)


Well the custom thing caught me by surprise...basically when I emailed Tim and told him what I want, he told me to put exactly what I want in the comments box. What really surprised me is that there was no extra charge for the Ceramic bridge or the custom wound neck. When I sent the order through and subsequently emailed him to insure that he got the instructions, he said he fully understood what I want and was going to wind the custom neck based on what I asked. In short, I said I wanted the power of the Warpig neck (to match the bridge) but I wanted that cut and clarity that the Cold Sweat neck has...and that is EXACTLY what this pickup has. Before this, the Cold Sweat neck was my favorite neck pickup...this custom warpig neck is my new favorite! To be fair, the CS neck I have is in a Les Paul Studio and it's not tapped though.

Actually the neck tapped sounds incredible, and does cleans extremely well. That's the thing that surprised me the most about this set...I expected sheer power from the Ceramic 'Pig in the bridge (which I got), but I did not expect the neck to sound as good as it does clean while in humbucker mode and tapped. I just spent three hours working on my lessons this week (major 7th arpeggios) and I haven't moved the pickup switch off of position 2 (that's the neck tapped)...it sounds amazing! And it definitely does not break up through my Mesa in the clean and "slightly" overdriven channels when it's tapped. I believe this has to do with cutting the power in half in the tapped position.

You're tastes in pickups sounds IDENTICAL to mine! My first choice of pickups for the Ibanez were the Nailbomb bridge and Cold Sweat neck...and I actually have the MM bridge/CS neck in my Les Paul Studio.

As far as the Ceramic Warpig, the only thing I can liken it to (as I don't have the Alnico Warpig bridge...yet) is an EMG 81 running on two 9v batteries...except this one has more character and just sounds better. Also, based on the 5 way switch, the 3rd position is the neck tapped and bridge tapped so I get great funk tones...which is quite a surprise for a guitar that is soon to become my metal guitar!

To be fair though, I'm sure the Nailbomb or an Alnico Warpig in the bridge would theoretically be more versatile, but this guitar has a five way switch and I can get a ton of tones with the way the pickups are wired. Just remember to order 4 conductor wiring with whatever you get so you can tap them.
BKPs: Miracle Man, Cold Sweat neck, Ceramic Warpig, Mississippi Queens, Holy Divers

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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2007, 04:40:23 AM »
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^

I emailed Tim before ordering my BKP's and asked how I would go about getting a different HSS set than one of the 'default' ones, and he said that when you order, there's a comments box where you can ask for a different set, I assume that's what you'd do if you wanted a custom wind.

Muz  :D


That's exactly what I did.  :D
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2007, 06:37:06 AM »
Hey Tony, is your neck 'pig ceramic too, or just the bridge?
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2007, 07:17:32 AM »
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Hey Tony, is your neck 'pig ceramic too, or just the bridge?


Hi Muzzzz, just the bridge is ceramic. The neck is Alnico V which from what I understand is great for cleans.
BKPs: Miracle Man, Cold Sweat neck, Ceramic Warpig, Mississippi Queens, Holy Divers

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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2007, 03:25:44 PM »
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Nice! So, if I wanted to order something custom, I'd just have to make my order through an email instead of the website's checkout area? Just give info and credit card details in the email?

By the way, what you are describing the neck pickup like sounds PERFECT to me. I want a hot, clear, cutting shred pickup, and it's a huge plus that you said it sounds great tapped. When tapped, can it do really clean clean well or does it breakup a bit because of still a high output? Also, you got me considering the warpig ceramic... would you say it's tighter? I always put off the regular warpig because I heard it had a lot of bass... and I don't want that... I want it to be tight and balanced, having some good aggressive mids and crunch...

Sorry for the questions. just... I feel bad if I keep bothering tim with questions like this, and up until now I was considering either a NB/CS set or a MM/CS set and your post about your custom winds have got me really interested!  :?

Let me know what you think when you get a chance :)


Well the custom thing caught me by surprise...basically when I emailed Tim and told him what I want, he told me to put exactly what I want in the comments box. What really surprised me is that there was no extra charge for the Ceramic bridge or the custom wound neck. When I sent the order through and subsequently emailed him to insure that he got the instructions, he said he fully understood what I want and was going to wind the custom neck based on what I asked. In short, I said I wanted the power of the Warpig neck (to match the bridge) but I wanted that cut and clarity that the Cold Sweat neck has...and that is EXACTLY what this pickup has. Before this, the Cold Sweat neck was my favorite neck pickup...this custom warpig neck is my new favorite! To be fair, the CS neck I have is in a Les Paul Studio and it's not tapped though.

Actually the neck tapped sounds incredible, and does cleans extremely well. That's the thing that surprised me the most about this set...I expected sheer power from the Ceramic 'Pig in the bridge (which I got), but I did not expect the neck to sound as good as it does clean while in humbucker mode and tapped. I just spent three hours working on my lessons this week (major 7th arpeggios) and I haven't moved the pickup switch off of position 2 (that's the neck tapped)...it sounds amazing! And it definitely does not break up through my Mesa in the clean and "slightly" overdriven channels when it's tapped. I believe this has to do with cutting the power in half in the tapped position.

You're tastes in pickups sounds IDENTICAL to mine! My first choice of pickups for the Ibanez were the Nailbomb bridge and Cold Sweat neck...and I actually have the MM bridge/CS neck in my Les Paul Studio.

As far as the Ceramic Warpig, the only thing I can liken it to (as I don't have the Alnico Warpig bridge...yet) is an EMG 81 running on two 9v batteries...except this one has more character and just sounds better. Also, based on the 5 way switch, the 3rd position is the neck tapped and bridge tapped so I get great funk tones...which is quite a surprise for a guitar that is soon to become my metal guitar!

To be fair though, I'm sure the Nailbomb or an Alnico Warpig in the bridge would theoretically be more versatile, but this guitar has a five way switch and I can get a ton of tones with the way the pickups are wired. Just remember to order 4 conductor wiring with whatever you get so you can tap them.


Thanks for the detailed reply.  :)

I guess it really doesn't mater to me how well the bridge pickup cleans up, because I'd mostly use the neck pickup tapped for cleans. For clean bridge stuff, I'd just use my G&L Asat Special tele... Do you think the warpig being ceramic cuts off some of the bassyness? I really like the midrange sound of the nailbomb, but I want it to be more powerful like the warpig... maybe I should just ask for a ceramic warpig voiced a little more in the midrange for more crunch and less bass? Or maybe it would fit in okay if it was in a jackson... because they are alder bodies... bright guitars... hmmm

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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2007, 04:12:54 PM »
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Nice! So, if I wanted to order something custom, I'd just have to make my order through an email instead of the website's checkout area? Just give info and credit card details in the email?

By the way, what you are describing the neck pickup like sounds PERFECT to me. I want a hot, clear, cutting shred pickup, and it's a huge plus that you said it sounds great tapped. When tapped, can it do really clean clean well or does it breakup a bit because of still a high output? Also, you got me considering the warpig ceramic... would you say it's tighter? I always put off the regular warpig because I heard it had a lot of bass... and I don't want that... I want it to be tight and balanced, having some good aggressive mids and crunch...

Sorry for the questions. just... I feel bad if I keep bothering tim with questions like this, and up until now I was considering either a NB/CS set or a MM/CS set and your post about your custom winds have got me really interested!  :?

Let me know what you think when you get a chance :)


Well the custom thing caught me by surprise...basically when I emailed Tim and told him what I want, he told me to put exactly what I want in the comments box. What really surprised me is that there was no extra charge for the Ceramic bridge or the custom wound neck. When I sent the order through and subsequently emailed him to insure that he got the instructions, he said he fully understood what I want and was going to wind the custom neck based on what I asked. In short, I said I wanted the power of the Warpig neck (to match the bridge) but I wanted that cut and clarity that the Cold Sweat neck has...and that is EXACTLY what this pickup has. Before this, the Cold Sweat neck was my favorite neck pickup...this custom warpig neck is my new favorite! To be fair, the CS neck I have is in a Les Paul Studio and it's not tapped though.

Actually the neck tapped sounds incredible, and does cleans extremely well. That's the thing that surprised me the most about this set...I expected sheer power from the Ceramic 'Pig in the bridge (which I got), but I did not expect the neck to sound as good as it does clean while in humbucker mode and tapped. I just spent three hours working on my lessons this week (major 7th arpeggios) and I haven't moved the pickup switch off of position 2 (that's the neck tapped)...it sounds amazing! And it definitely does not break up through my Mesa in the clean and "slightly" overdriven channels when it's tapped. I believe this has to do with cutting the power in half in the tapped position.

You're tastes in pickups sounds IDENTICAL to mine! My first choice of pickups for the Ibanez were the Nailbomb bridge and Cold Sweat neck...and I actually have the MM bridge/CS neck in my Les Paul Studio.

As far as the Ceramic Warpig, the only thing I can liken it to (as I don't have the Alnico Warpig bridge...yet) is an EMG 81 running on two 9v batteries...except this one has more character and just sounds better. Also, based on the 5 way switch, the 3rd position is the neck tapped and bridge tapped so I get great funk tones...which is quite a surprise for a guitar that is soon to become my metal guitar!

To be fair though, I'm sure the Nailbomb or an Alnico Warpig in the bridge would theoretically be more versatile, but this guitar has a five way switch and I can get a ton of tones with the way the pickups are wired. Just remember to order 4 conductor wiring with whatever you get so you can tap them.


Thanks for the detailed reply.  :)

I guess it really doesn't mater to me how well the bridge pickup cleans up, because I'd mostly use the neck pickup tapped for cleans. For clean bridge stuff, I'd just use my G&L Asat Special tele... Do you think the warpig being ceramic cuts off some of the bassyness? I really like the midrange sound of the nailbomb, but I want it to be more powerful like the warpig... maybe I should just ask for a ceramic warpig voiced a little more in the midrange for more crunch and less bass? Or maybe it would fit in okay if it was in a jackson... because they are alder bodies... bright guitars... hmmm


You have a G&L? I foolishly sold my G&L Legacy last year and have been kicking myself ever since. G&L's are outstanding.

Anyway, that was my approach...use the neck for tapped cleans. What surprised me though is how the neck tapped combines with the bridge tapped based on the way I had the guitar wired.

Theoretically I think the ceramic Warpig has less bass, but it's definitely not thin sounding. Then again I'm playing it through 2 Mesa/Boogie amps which tend to be very dark sounding anyway. So it still has plenty of highs and plenty of mid range and a TON of crunch, but thanks to the Mesa it still has that floor-shaking "chug chug" sound.
BKPs: Miracle Man, Cold Sweat neck, Ceramic Warpig, Mississippi Queens, Holy Divers

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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2007, 06:35:42 AM »
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Nice! So, if I wanted to order something custom, I'd just have to make my order through an email instead of the website's checkout area? Just give info and credit card details in the email?

By the way, what you are describing the neck pickup like sounds PERFECT to me. I want a hot, clear, cutting shred pickup, and it's a huge plus that you said it sounds great tapped. When tapped, can it do really clean clean well or does it breakup a bit because of still a high output? Also, you got me considering the warpig ceramic... would you say it's tighter? I always put off the regular warpig because I heard it had a lot of bass... and I don't want that... I want it to be tight and balanced, having some good aggressive mids and crunch...

Sorry for the questions. just... I feel bad if I keep bothering tim with questions like this, and up until now I was considering either a NB/CS set or a MM/CS set and your post about your custom winds have got me really interested!  :?

Let me know what you think when you get a chance :)


Well the custom thing caught me by surprise...basically when I emailed Tim and told him what I want, he told me to put exactly what I want in the comments box. What really surprised me is that there was no extra charge for the Ceramic bridge or the custom wound neck. When I sent the order through and subsequently emailed him to insure that he got the instructions, he said he fully understood what I want and was going to wind the custom neck based on what I asked. In short, I said I wanted the power of the Warpig neck (to match the bridge) but I wanted that cut and clarity that the Cold Sweat neck has...and that is EXACTLY what this pickup has. Before this, the Cold Sweat neck was my favorite neck pickup...this custom warpig neck is my new favorite! To be fair, the CS neck I have is in a Les Paul Studio and it's not tapped though.

Actually the neck tapped sounds incredible, and does cleans extremely well. That's the thing that surprised me the most about this set...I expected sheer power from the Ceramic 'Pig in the bridge (which I got), but I did not expect the neck to sound as good as it does clean while in humbucker mode and tapped. I just spent three hours working on my lessons this week (major 7th arpeggios) and I haven't moved the pickup switch off of position 2 (that's the neck tapped)...it sounds amazing! And it definitely does not break up through my Mesa in the clean and "slightly" overdriven channels when it's tapped. I believe this has to do with cutting the power in half in the tapped position.

You're tastes in pickups sounds IDENTICAL to mine! My first choice of pickups for the Ibanez were the Nailbomb bridge and Cold Sweat neck...and I actually have the MM bridge/CS neck in my Les Paul Studio.

As far as the Ceramic Warpig, the only thing I can liken it to (as I don't have the Alnico Warpig bridge...yet) is an EMG 81 running on two 9v batteries...except this one has more character and just sounds better. Also, based on the 5 way switch, the 3rd position is the neck tapped and bridge tapped so I get great funk tones...which is quite a surprise for a guitar that is soon to become my metal guitar!

To be fair though, I'm sure the Nailbomb or an Alnico Warpig in the bridge would theoretically be more versatile, but this guitar has a five way switch and I can get a ton of tones with the way the pickups are wired. Just remember to order 4 conductor wiring with whatever you get so you can tap them.


Thanks for the detailed reply.  :)

I guess it really doesn't mater to me how well the bridge pickup cleans up, because I'd mostly use the neck pickup tapped for cleans. For clean bridge stuff, I'd just use my G&L Asat Special tele... Do you think the warpig being ceramic cuts off some of the bassyness? I really like the midrange sound of the nailbomb, but I want it to be more powerful like the warpig... maybe I should just ask for a ceramic warpig voiced a little more in the midrange for more crunch and less bass? Or maybe it would fit in okay if it was in a jackson... because they are alder bodies... bright guitars... hmmm


You have a G&L? I foolishly sold my G&L Legacy last year and have been kicking myself ever since. G&L's are outstanding.

Anyway, that was my approach...use the neck for tapped cleans. What surprised me though is how the neck tapped combines with the bridge tapped based on the way I had the guitar wired.

Theoretically I think the ceramic Warpig has less bass, but it's definitely not thin sounding. Then again I'm playing it through 2 Mesa/Boogie amps which tend to be very dark sounding anyway. So it still has plenty of highs and plenty of mid range and a TON of crunch, but thanks to the Mesa it still has that floor-shaking "chug chug" sound.


:) Here she is:




Right now I'm looking for a really nice shred guitar to put some BKPs in. I think I'm probably going to go with one of the upper end ibanez rg prestige models, or maybe a jackson soloist, but most of the soloists are made of alder... and I like the thicker darker sound of mahogany, so I think the prestige rg's would probably be better suited to me. after I get one, I think I am going to go for a set very similar to yours. I might ask to tweak the bridge a little bit different, but I'm pretty sure I went the output power of the warpigs, and the custom wind neck you got sounds exactly like what I'd want...  :)

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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2007, 07:08:13 AM »
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Right now I'm looking for a really nice shred guitar to put some BKPs in.


I'm looking at Ernie Ball Music Mans (Men?).
John Petrucci and Steve Morse have sig models, so they must be pretty good...
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« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2007, 07:14:39 AM »
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Right now I'm looking for a really nice shred guitar to put some BKPs in.


I'm looking at Ernie Ball Music Mans (Men?).
John Petrucci and Steve Morse have sig models, so they must be pretty good...


I've been wanting to try out some music mans too. I've heard the petrucci sig model is an extremely nice guitar. I usually tend to shy away from sig models of anything though.

I think all the music mans are basswood too. I'd rather have mahogany... I'm just used to that chunky mahogany tone

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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2007, 02:29:32 PM »
[quote="JoshuaLogan:) Here she is:




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God I love G&Ls! I bet she sounds killer.
BKPs: Miracle Man, Cold Sweat neck, Ceramic Warpig, Mississippi Queens, Holy Divers

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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2007, 02:29:55 PM »
[{quote="JoshuaLogan:) Here she is:




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God I love G&Ls! I bet she sounds killer.
BKPs: Miracle Man, Cold Sweat neck, Ceramic Warpig, Mississippi Queens, Holy Divers

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« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2007, 02:30:20 PM »
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Here she is:






God I love G&Ls! I bet she sounds killer.
BKPs: Miracle Man, Cold Sweat neck, Ceramic Warpig, Mississippi Queens, Holy Divers

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« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2007, 09:20:11 PM »
Woah - Triple post O.O
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