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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2007, 06:39:41 PM »
hmmmm..... my dad said that my guitar (Razorback, in case you don't know!) could only handle up to 13s...... is this true???
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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2007, 11:03:35 PM »
I sincerely doubt it.

Worst case: you have to get some more springs. The strings will fit.

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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2007, 06:10:13 AM »
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hmmmm..... my dad said that my guitar (Razorback, in case you don't know!) could only handle up to 13s...... is this true???

if you tune it to E, and put heavier strings on, the bridge might start to lean forward, and the headstock might start to bend inwards.  However if you downtune, the tension will be alot less, and you should be fine.  There is also the detail with filing the nut to accept thicker strings...
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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2007, 05:28:07 PM »
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hmmmm..... my dad said that my guitar (Razorback, in case you don't know!) could only handle up to 13s...... is this true???

if you tune it to E, and put heavier strings on, the bridge might start to lean forward, and the headstock might start to bend inwards.  However if you downtune, the tension will be alot less, and you should be fine.  There is also the detail with filing the nut to accept thicker strings...


surely with a locking nut, you don't have this problem?????

yeah, he must be talking cr@p. (my dad). new springs, no problem. i'll remember, when i've put the strings on, not to tune to standard. maybe C# standard sounds good  :twisted:

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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2007, 05:46:09 PM »
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surely with a locking nut, you don't have this problem?????

yeah, he must be talking cr@p. (my dad). new springs, no problem. i'll remember, when i've put the strings on, not to tune to standard. maybe C# standard sounds good  :twisted:

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locking nut doesnt change the amount tension your strings exert on the headstock or the neck, it just immobilizes them so a trem doesn't put them out of tune.  If anything, it will redirect the tension to pull more at the nut, encouraging warping.  But in C# tuning, you should definately be fine.
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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2007, 06:37:52 PM »
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surely with a locking nut, you don't have this problem?????

yeah, he must be talking cr@p. (my dad). new springs, no problem. i'll remember, when i've put the strings on, not to tune to standard. maybe C# standard sounds good  :twisted:

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locking nut doesnt change the amount tension your strings exert on the headstock or the neck, it just immobilizes them so a trem doesn't put them out of tune.  If anything, it will redirect the tension to pull more at the nut, encouraging warping.  But in C# tuning, you should definately be fine.


i wasn't really talking about the tension...... i mean having to cut the nut to fit the strings, surely a locking nut wouldn't need this done?

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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2007, 09:05:35 PM »
also another thing: would GHS Boomers 12-52 (with wound 3rd) be good for C# standard? the model number/code is: DYL

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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2007, 09:15:47 PM »
Oh yeah... locking nuts do have large slots dont they... then it shouldnt matter hahaha

12-52 would be great for C#.  It will be super tight and chunky.  Oh, and the wound third is just a matter of preference, if you do powerchords over the 3rd and 4th strings, a wound 3rd will keep the tone chunky and nice.
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2007, 09:18:56 PM »
i tend to use that string during riffs, yeah. i bet they'll be awesome. it would get in the way a bit while shredding, but i don't really shred, just riffs mainly, so i should be fine.

thanks a lot the_bleeding!

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« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2007, 09:20:21 PM »
I'm using set of 10s in D std right now playing Mastodon and it is a bit loose but not too bad. I think 12s would be perfect for 24.75" guitar in D std. Or maybe a skinny top heavy bottom set.

Somebody mentioned Zakk Wilde sets having strange gauges. Well thats because of the way he tunes his guitar. I think its like Eb but with the 6th string tuned way low. Very strange.

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« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2007, 01:03:43 PM »
I tune to B (BEADF#B) & I use D'Addario 9's...  Chuck the high string away & stick a 58 on the bottom.  It's keeps the strings at the same tension as it would if I had it in standard tuning with just 9's on.  So, if on the very rae occurance that I decide to re-string back in E I don't have to spend forever re-setting the bridge & stuff.
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« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2007, 01:45:07 PM »
wow. u guys all amaze me. i used to use 12-52s tuned to standard E on my flying V, but found they sound to bright. I still use 11-48s and to 48s and even tune to E. if i play a guitar with standard strings my pick attack become sloppy and un-articulate, on my solos i overbend every other note and miss half my pick strokes because the string doesnt snap back to where it should before i hit it again.

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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2007, 04:04:28 PM »
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wow. u guys all amaze me. i used to use 12-52s tuned to standard E on my flying V, but found they sound to bright. I still use 11-48s and to 48s and even tune to E. if i play a guitar with standard strings my pick attack become sloppy and un-articulate, on my solos i overbend every other note and miss half my pick strokes because the string doesnt snap back to where it should before i hit it again.


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« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2007, 04:21:36 PM »
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wow. u guys all amaze me. i used to use 12-52s tuned to standard E on my flying V, but found they sound to bright. I still use 11-48s and to 48s and even tune to E. if i play a guitar with standard strings my pick attack become sloppy and un-articulate, on my solos i overbend every other note and miss half my pick strokes because the string doesnt snap back to where it should before i hit it again.

I have found a kindred spirit, except I changed directly from a set of 9s which had more tension than a set of 13s.
I used to live in constant fear of having to replace the high e too :cry:
Has anyone else found that?
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« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2007, 04:45:10 PM »
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wow. u guys all amaze me. i used to use 12-52s tuned to standard E on my flying V, but found they sound to bright. I still use 11-48s and to 48s and even tune to E. if i play a guitar with standard strings my pick attack become sloppy and un-articulate, on my solos i overbend every other note and miss half my pick strokes because the string doesnt snap back to where it should before i hit it again.


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