anyone heard of Bugera Amps?

[BloodMountain]

mine is 15 Watt, not 10. it MUST be a different model, because i love mine. turned it up to 5 yesterday and the room shook. the Gain just growls in an evil way for over 30 seconds with my Les Paul. plus, if i change to my Razorback and flick the "Speaker" switch to "U.S" i get instant Dime/Lamb Of God tone. i don't really, like that tone, but loads of people do, and it demonstrates how dynamic this amp is.

BM

That doesnt prevent the fact that its a poopy 15 watt modelling amp.  I'll take my marshall 30th anniversary tube stack over that any day.  theres no comparison in tone. none.

OBVIOUSLY! dude, i never said it gave me tube tone, or anything like it, but it's just a REALLY pleasing grinding sound to practice with. in fact, i could gig with the sound of my GM108, and i wouldn't be cringing! i would love that....
but nothing beats a Valve amp in my opinion. not even analog modelers of the 21st century.

BM

[BloodMountain]

Yeah, but only that the Orange cost a whopping £300. so you cant compare it with them.

edit: But sure, MG250 with zoom would be a similar price I see your point.

what dya mean???

EDIT: just seen your edit  :D
yeah, they're a similar price. just need a cab to go with the Orange though. +£150

[maverickf1jockey]

looking at the few reviews circling around the 'net these new amps look pretty sweet. I might just buy the 333XL if it's a decent price and if I don't like it I could probably do some mods to make it into a monster. Chances are that the valves and speakers will let the amp down though. Replace those with higher quality lines and it'd be a damn site better than the Peaveys everyone says that they are copies of.
Anyway - the Peavey Valve King amps are pretty cheap anyway, only problem is the lack of flexibility in a live situation.
I think it's fantastic that this thread hasn't degenerated into an all out boycott of Behringer products. Every other forum I found were complaining that the design was similar to the Peavey range but when you consider that it contains the JSX Joe Satriani head that's no bad thing.
I think that these amps should be given a good while to distribute around the world before Behringer lose another court case (it's going to get to the point where a unicycle could complain about the patent for a pedal and say that the word pedal is their copyright and win against behringer. the bonus of this is that thay will hurtle in value because they are probably better manufactured in Behringer city than in Peavey's factories; making them a good investment.)
Anyway, the design of the 333XL could just as easily be based on the laney with a noise gate added. there is no proof that Behringer copied Peavey's design. they might well have finally come up with an original idea.

[BloodMountain]

looking at the few reviews circling around the 'net these new amps look pretty sweet. I might just buy the 333XL if it's a decent price and if I don't like it I could probably do some mods to make it into a monster. Chances are that the valves and speakers will let the amp down though. Replace those with higher quality lines and it'd be a damn site better than the Peaveys everyone says that they are copies of.
Anyway - the Peavey Valve King amps are pretty cheap anyway, only problem is the lack of flexibility in a live situation.
I think it's fantastic that this thread hasn't degenerated into an all out boycott of Behringer products. Every other forum I found were complaining that the design was similar to the Peavey range but when you consider that it contains the JSX Joe Satriani head that's no bad thing.
I think that these amps should be given a good while to distribute around the world before Behringer lose another court case (it's going to get to the point where a unicycle could complain about the patent for a pedal and say that the word pedal is their copyright and win against behringer. the bonus of this is that thay will hurtle in value because they are probably better manufactured in Behringer city than in Peavey's factories; making them a good investment.)
Anyway, the design of the 333XL could just as easily be based on the laney with a noise gate added. there is no proof that Behringer copied Peavey's design. they might well have finally come up with an original idea.

agreed.
hopefully it's something new  :D  i'm getting excited now, as i'm looking for a new amp ATM!
yeah, i searched "Behringer VT999" on Google and it came up with a shiteload of discussion forums saying "huh huh it's probably a jam jar with tube written on it huh huh". it's just uncalled for, how can they judge like that? my EQ pedal does exactly what it is supposed to, no fuss. for £15 it was a bargain!

BM

[BloodMountain]

http://www.gearwire.com/media/behringer-bugera-wnamm.mov

the sneak preview of the 333 and 333XL. it's mainly telling the features (which sound cool) but you do get to hear the 333 in action a couple of times. whaddya think? i think not enough gain dialed in, need to add more to convince me :twisted:

BM

[aisuru]

not bad. seems like a good classic rock tone there.

[BloodMountain]

guess who's found more clips of the Bugeras..... ME!

it's too metal for some of you, but i think it sounds great. this guy can write amazing stuff.
http://www.myspace.com/shaneshred

enjoy
BM

[Adam.M]

I've been waiting for someone to mention these...

I've been watching them since they were announced and i really, really want a 333XL Head.

Honestly, how much can you screw up valve amp?

All the stuff coming out of china these days seems pretty decent, i can't see them being any worse than those valve kings.

Can't wait to play through one, i hate spending loads of money on gear!

[Mr Ed]

Weird, I saw them the other day on a NAMM page and on paper they look amazing.

I'm really interested in the 333 and the 6262... but the fact that it's Behringer puts me off somewhat.

http://www.gearwire.com/media/behringer-bugera-wnamm.mov

Based on that, it sounds like complete and utter ass.

[maverickf1jockey]

THAT is a very poor recording through a camera microphone in an area with about a thousand people walking past talking at once and that's forgetting about the other demos going on.
On the opposite evil of recording Shane Gibson's tone sounds pretty good but it's mostly studio recorded stuff.
Neither is good for rating the amps. We just have to find one of them and try it out. Whoever manages first should do a thorough report of the tone in person.

[Mr Ed]

Apparently, Dawsons should be getting them in stock as they're an authorised Behringer dealer so I intend on hunting one down in Liverpool when I'm back from New York... or I might even try to find one next week when I'm IN New York.

[BloodMountain]

Apparently, Dawsons should be getting them in stock as they're an authorised Behringer dealer so I intend on hunting one down in Liverpool when I'm back from New York... or I might even try to find one next week when I'm IN New York.

 8)

[snipesace]

www.bugera-amps.com

as far as i can tell, they're made by Behringer, who do high quality stuff, but at reasonable prices.

wait wait wait...Behringer...and quality...in the same sentence!? All behringer stuff I have seen has been terrible quality and sound like garbage. which is why their pedals are half the price or less of what they are trying to copy

[indysmith]

www.bugera-amps.com

as far as i can tell, they're made by Behringer, who do high quality stuff, but at reasonable prices.

wait wait wait...Behringer...and quality...in the same sentence!? All behringer stuff I have seen has been terrible quality and sound like garbage. which is why their pedals are half the price or less of what they are trying to copy

my friend had a behringer amp, and i managed to snap off her volume control, which seemed to have been mounted on a matchstick... an actual MATCHSTICK - it didn't have the igniting bit on the end, but it was the same wood and thickness of a matchstick. I was slightly horrified. I used to have a behringer tubescreamer clone pedal; every time i shook it the sound would change a bit. in my experience behringer products sound sub-standard in the few days they work for.
although, saying that, _tom_'s coaxed some nice sounds out of his v-amp

[the_bleeding]

All the stuff coming out of china these days seems pretty decent, i can't see them being any worse than those valve kings.

you clearly havent played a madison  :roll:
they are scum of the earth, and i wouldnt be suprised if Bugera wasnt far off either.