Author Topic: Recommend me an amp damnit! (Read 39594 times)

BloodMountain · « **Reply #60 on:** March 11, 2007, 11:01:59 AM »

Quote from: noodleplugerine

Not an abbreviation :roll:

huh? was it a misspelling then?

both amps must hang fine when it comes to gain.

EDIT: hmmm the Orange doesn't sound as if it has the powerful punch i am looking for (i.e DM punch), but the VK sounds more promising in that sense. i think the Valveking should have the priority.

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #61 on:** March 11, 2007, 02:14:34 PM »

5 pages into this thread ... have you come to a final decision?!

BloodMountain · « **Reply #62 on:** March 11, 2007, 10:20:39 PM »

either VK or TT. i have not a clue what to get.... both are great! TT is more practical in a simple and portable sense, the VK it more practical in a user friendly features (e.g. 2 channels footswitchable) sense.

LazyNinja · « **Reply #63 on:** March 11, 2007, 11:15:27 PM »

What was your reason for dismissing the GH50L? You wanted one for a while. If you want Opeth tone you might as well get the real deal. It's not much more expensive than a VK anyway possibly even cheaper used.

I know I'll sound like a poser but have you ever thought about how silly you'd look with a TT playing a Razorback? Unless your going for the whole shock factor of it.

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #64 on:** March 11, 2007, 11:29:10 PM »

Quote from: LazyNinja

What was your reason for dismissing the GH50L? You wanted one for a while. If you want Opeth tone you might as well get the real deal. It's not much more expensive than a VK anyway possibly even cheaper used.

I know I'll sound like a poser but have you ever thought about how silly you'd look with a TT playing a Razorback? Unless your going for the whole shock factor of it.

Too true.

Valve King isn't in the same league as a Laney imo.

the_bleeding · « **Reply #65 on:** March 12, 2007, 12:56:16 AM »

Quote from: LazyNinja

What was your reason for dismissing the GH50L? You wanted one for a while. If you want Opeth tone you might as well get the real deal. It's not much more expensive than a VK anyway possibly even cheaper used.

I know I'll sound like a poser but have you ever thought about how silly you'd look with a TT playing a Razorback? Unless your going for the whole shock factor of it.

well... heres a dude with a yellow warlock and a tiny terror...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3jrvW8PB2rc

Metal-Assmoney · « **Reply #66 on:** March 12, 2007, 06:47:47 AM »

am i the only one who is gonna mention the B-52 AT-100 212 combo? i think they go for 600 here in the states if i am not mistaken. I own a B-52 AT-100 Head and Cab, and i dig it a lot.

I switched out all tubes for JJs (I bought the JJ High Gain kit with the extra goldpin for V1 and then a seperate goldpin for V2. Sounds great when biased right.

a good thing to keep in mind is how the stages of this amp work. i like a bit bassier and smoother tone, so i run the goldpin in V1. V1 is always running, no matter what. it powers the preamps. the resot of the configurations go as follows:

Clean Channel = V1 + V2 (Hence the use of the goldpin in both. golds are known for thier amazing cleans)

OD. 1 = V1 + V3. high gain tube in here. im a 2 trick man, either screaming gains or super cleans, so i dont use this channel, but there is a reason to put a high-gain tube in this slot.

OD. 2 = V1 + V3 + V4. very fat and heavy. its an awesome sounding amp for what its worth, especially now.

Power Tubes biased @ 39ma per tube. just on the edge of what they can handle. great sound and lots of fatness and saturation. I had to ship my head back because i found out that 1 of the 4 power tubes was never drawing the proper plate voltage (when i measured all the other ones drawing at 39 this one was drawing at 1.48ma) the tube never burned as hot or glowed as bright as the others.

The cab i run is the matching cab and it sounds OK, but im looking into a custom cab with Hellatone 60s & Celestion G12T-75s in an X pattern, because that is the cab i want for when i eventually get a splawn pro-mod.
i have played this amp through a cab with this config and it sounds 10x better.

the only thing i would worry about with these amps is the reliability. they are not known for thier reliability, but i say give em a chance as B-52 have only been in the amp business for 3 1/2 years now and are obviously still only working out thier kinks.

if this post did not help you in the slightest, im sorry. it should yield some good info about tubes and cascading gain for any amp tho, so at least keep that in mind.

to leave you with something that you will all benifit from, if you do not know about them check out www.avatarspeakers.com . they build custom cabs for dirt cheap compared to anyone else and i am sure this can help. while they do not ship out of the states, i for one am willing to help (yes i know its a risk) but i would sign a contract and all saying that you could ship your cab to me and as soon as i recieve a money order or cashiers check for the shipping to your location i will ship it out. not trying to gyp anyone, just trying to be the friendly neigborhood musician who will help anyone in need.

sorry if this didnt help at all. also, if anyone has any questions on tubes, speakers, amps, ETC i would be more than glad to help as i have done loads of research in these areas and even run my own unnofical tech shop from my house.

LazyNinja · « **Reply #67 on:** March 12, 2007, 08:41:17 AM »

Quote from: the_bleeding

Quote from: LazyNinja
What was your reason for dismissing the GH50L? You wanted one for a while. If you want Opeth tone you might as well get the real deal. It's not much more expensive than a VK anyway possibly even cheaper used.

I know I'll sound like a poser but have you ever thought about how silly you'd look with a TT playing a Razorback? Unless your going for the whole shock factor of it.

well... heres a dude with a yellow warlock and a tiny terror...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3jrvW8PB2rc

Exactly

:lol:

BloodMountain · « **Reply #68 on:** March 12, 2007, 04:56:27 PM »

Quote from: LazyNinja

What was your reason for dismissing the GH50L? You wanted one for a while. If you want Opeth tone you might as well get the real deal. It's not much more expensive than a VK anyway possibly even cheaper used.

I know I'll sound like a poser but have you ever thought about how silly you'd look with a TT playing a Razorback? Unless your going for the whole shock factor of it.

here's a couple:

- they're a bugger to find second hand.
- i have to try an amp out before i buy (parent's rules) and there are no GH50Ls around me at all.
- they would sound too british for my sound

i don't give a shite what my amp looks like...... it's the sound that counts. if the sound rumbles the floor and just generally crushes, it is fine.

dave_mc · « **Reply #69 on:** March 12, 2007, 05:25:11 PM »

^ ^ ^ I know a lot of US guys rave about the b52's, but I don't know if there are even any dealers or distributors this side of the pond.... also, US gear tends to get really big mark-ups here, so that'd probably defeat a lot of the good value factor...

I'm not trying to be down on them, if Bloodmountain can find 'em, they're certainly worth a try.

^ About the Laney, I'm not sure it sounds all that British at all... I haven't tried that exact model, but from what I hear, the GH50 is similar to the vh100, and the vh100, if anything, sounds more american (to my ears, anyway). Though, if you have to try it, you may be screwed anyway...

BloodMountain · « **Reply #70 on:** March 12, 2007, 05:34:31 PM »

Quote from: dave_mc

^ ^ ^ I know a lot of US guys rave about the b52's, but I don't know if there are even any dealers or distributors this side of the pond.... also, US gear tends to get really big mark-ups here, so that'd probably defeat a lot of the good value factor...

I'm not trying to be down on them, if Bloodmountain can find 'em, they're certainly worth a try.

^ About the Laney, I'm not sure it sounds all that British at all... I haven't tried that exact model, but from what I hear, the GH50 is similar to the vh100, and the vh100, if anything, sounds more american (to my ears, anyway). Though, if you have to try it, you may be screwed anyway...

i don't think Devon does B-52s. maybe north Devon, but not here. not even Somerset (well, my side of Somerset)

i heard the GH50L clip at LazyNinja's http://www.laneyforum.com which is $%&#ing awesome........ DM max!!!! it's an amazing sound, but, unfortunately, no GH50Ls ANYWHERE around here. there are laneys, but the buggers won't get any GH50Ls. i mailed them, and they said they can buy some in if i intend to buy, but i only intend to try, then buy off eBay :)

so..... VK or TT?

gorath23 · « **Reply #71 on:** March 13, 2007, 02:49:51 PM »

Hey, Mansons is my local guitar shop too BM. What have you decided to go for in the end? I'm a huge Opeth fan too, nice to see another guitarist who likes them. I was in a similar position to you a couple of months ago, looking for a low wattage 2x12 combo for metal. Ended up going for a JCM900 2x12 50 watter, not that it was perfect straight out of the box though.

BloodMountain · « **Reply #72 on:** March 13, 2007, 04:57:58 PM »

Quote from: gorath23

Hey, Mansons is my local guitar shop too BM. What have you decided to go for in the end? I'm a huge Opeth fan too, nice to see another guitarist who likes them. I was in a similar position to you a couple of months ago, looking for a low wattage 2x12 combo for metal. Ended up going for a JCM900 2x12 50 watter, not that it was perfect straight out of the box though.

cool..... tell me, have they ever not let you try anything out?

hmmm the JCM900 seems a bit loud, although i've never really got into JCM 900s.... is it expensive? does it have a lot of gain?

the_bleeding · « **Reply #73 on:** March 13, 2007, 06:29:05 PM »

Quote from: BLOODMOUNTAIN

hmmm the JCM900 seems a bit loud, although i've never really got into JCM 900s.... is it expensive? does it have a lot of gain?

Marshall cuts corners on their combos: theyre made of particle board and have poopy bass response.
About the JCM900 though, it has the gain, but its hard to get at it. Theres 2 ways: crank the poweramp, or get a booster pedal. This only goes for the reverb series though. If you want ubergain at low levels, see if you can find an old jcm900 SL-X (it has an extra pretube instead of a diode clipping stage). This sacrifices the clean tone, but it turns it into a high gain grinding machine... or buy a regulard jcm900 and get it modded with an extra tube... :D

Also, please please pelase avoid b52's. Theyre budget amps, and have very very sad sounding cabinets. With the shipping costs to the UK, it would definately not be worth it. I'd only recommend one of these is somebody was in a tight spot for money, and needed a loud amp fast for a gig.

gorath23 · « **Reply #74 on:** March 13, 2007, 10:55:05 PM »

Quote

cool..... tell me, have they ever not let you try anything out?

hmmm the JCM900 seems a bit loud, although i've never really got into JCM 900s.... is it expensive? does it have a lot of gain?

No, they've always been pretty helpful in Mansons, if not stupidly overpriced though. My JCM is pretty quiet for 50w, I have it pretty much maxed out for band practise. It may be the tubes though, I sacrificed headroom for earlier breakup. I've found a boost to be pretty useless on it except at bedroom levels, beyond about 3-4 on the master and the tubes pretty max out in terms of gain and switching my boost on and off (Digitech Bad Monkey) makes no difference to the sound. The clarity of the amps is incredible and it cuts through nicely but it suits lead playing a lot more than rhythm, which is fine for me. Next purchase is a decent EQ to give it more grind. I really love the sound but its kinda a polar opposite to a 5150-type sound. Lots of sustain and sweet harmonics but its kinda thin for rhythm.

Author Topic: Recommend me an amp damnit! (Read 39594 times)

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