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« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2007, 02:19:36 AM »
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Heres a little advice, you'll never sound like anyone no matter what kind of gear you have (even if you have their own actual set up), "Tone" comes from your fingers. My advice to you is to walk away from trying to sound like someone else and sound like yourself  :wink:. As far as you and which pickup to get, i'd try and figure out what you're trying to acheive out of your over all EQ. Going that route helped me a bunch instead of guessing around.

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very good advice. i know i should just try to get my own sound. the reason i'm asking how what pickup sounds more like which band is because i know their tone and i want to start from somewhere around that point. basically i just want a reference point of where to look.

ok, so here's the tone i want, in order of most important:
-very smooth mid range. iron maiden iced earthish (iron maiden's version of sabbath bloody sabbath is a good reference)
-screaming yet smooth highs with a whole bunch of sustain. i don't shred so the notes really need to stand out.
-some heavy lows, nice and tight. metallicaish
-some squealing pinch harmonics


I know whatcha mean bro, i've been there before and I think everyone here has too. It takes time, learning and those accasional mile stones you run into  :lol:.

I understand what you want, but what you need to do is sit down with your guitar and it through your amp on the EQ setting you like the most. Now decide what you THINK needs to change as far as your actual sound. An example would be say, you like the EQ set on your amp now but you think it's muddy and not cutting through so you need more mids. Unfortunately you lose that amp EQ you like so much if you try turning the mids up, so what can I do? Get a pickup that has more mids to it and possibly less bass also.

It's hard to explain but I think/hope that helps you. It's all mix and match with sitting down and figuring out what you want out of your overall set up.

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« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2007, 02:20:26 AM »
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that's pretty much exactly what I'm going for as well... I'm pretty much settled on the holydiver for the bridge, and now I just need to decide whether to get a calibrated set or go for the abraxas in the neck


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« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2007, 12:21:48 AM »
i'd get the holy diver, but i don't think tim reccomends them for a flying v. what is the difference between the warpig, and the custom ceramic?

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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2007, 12:35:59 AM »
Ceramic magnet instead of Alnico 5, means tighter bass.
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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2007, 12:41:46 AM »
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Ceramic magnet instead of Alnico 5, means tighter bass.


is it really only tighter bass? then why wouldn't you not get the ceramic? whats better about the alnico version?

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I know whatcha mean bro, i've been there before and I think everyone here has too. It takes time, learning and those accasional mile stones you run into Laughing.

I understand what you want, but what you need to do is sit down with your guitar and it through your amp on the EQ setting you like the most. Now decide what you THINK needs to change as far as your actual sound. An example would be say, you like the EQ set on your amp now but you think it's muddy and not cutting through so you need more mids. Unfortunately you lose that amp EQ you like so much if you try turning the mids up, so what can I do? Get a pickup that has more mids to it and possibly less bass also.

It's hard to explain but I think/hope that helps you. It's all mix and match with sitting down and figuring out what you want out of your overall set up.


what am i lacking in my current setup? not much sustain, highs are incredibly harsh, and although i have a good bass response, it could be a little heavier.


if it helps, once i get my amp back from the shop i'll post some type of clip.

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« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2007, 03:12:09 AM »
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Ceramic magnet instead of Alnico 5, means tighter bass.


is it really only tighter bass? then why wouldn't you not get the ceramic? whats better about the alnico version?

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I know whatcha mean bro, i've been there before and I think everyone here has too. It takes time, learning and those accasional mile stones you run into Laughing.

I understand what you want, but what you need to do is sit down with your guitar and it through your amp on the EQ setting you like the most. Now decide what you THINK needs to change as far as your actual sound. An example would be say, you like the EQ set on your amp now but you think it's muddy and not cutting through so you need more mids. Unfortunately you lose that amp EQ you like so much if you try turning the mids up, so what can I do? Get a pickup that has more mids to it and possibly less bass also.

It's hard to explain but I think/hope that helps you. It's all mix and match with sitting down and figuring out what you want out of your overall set up.


what am i lacking in my current setup? not much sustain, highs are incredibly harsh, and although i have a good bass response, it could be a little heavier.


if it helps, once i get my amp back from the shop i'll post some type of clip.


Well, my opinion on what I think sounds good shouldn't mean much to you. Cause everyone has their own perspective on what they think sounds "good" to them. If you think you have too much highs and want a better bass response, then you just anwsered a lot of questions about what you like. Now, the whole reason I joined this forum in the first place was cause BK doesn't really describe what the EQ is like on each pickup  :D. So just keep an eye out and use process of elimination to figure out what you think will suit you the best.

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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2007, 02:55:59 AM »
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Ceramic magnet instead of Alnico 5, means tighter bass.


is it really only tighter bass? then why wouldn't you not get the ceramic? whats better about the alnico version?

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I know whatcha mean bro, i've been there before and I think everyone here has too. It takes time, learning and those accasional mile stones you run into Laughing.

I understand what you want, but what you need to do is sit down with your guitar and it through your amp on the EQ setting you like the most. Now decide what you THINK needs to change as far as your actual sound. An example would be say, you like the EQ set on your amp now but you think it's muddy and not cutting through so you need more mids. Unfortunately you lose that amp EQ you like so much if you try turning the mids up, so what can I do? Get a pickup that has more mids to it and possibly less bass also.

It's hard to explain but I think/hope that helps you. It's all mix and match with sitting down and figuring out what you want out of your overall set up.


what am i lacking in my current setup? not much sustain, highs are incredibly harsh, and although i have a good bass response, it could be a little heavier.


if it helps, once i get my amp back from the shop i'll post some type of clip.


Well, my opinion on what I think sounds good shouldn't mean much to you. Cause everyone has their own perspective on what they think sounds "good" to them. If you think you have too much highs and want a better bass response, then you just anwsered a lot of questions about what you like. Now, the whole reason I joined this forum in the first place was cause BK doesn't really describe what the EQ is like on each pickup  :D. So just keep an eye out and use process of elimination to figure out what you think will suit you the best.


yeah, i already know what i like. i want to know what pickup will suit the sound i'm looking for.

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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2007, 03:26:43 PM »
putting a ceramic magnet in the WP gives it a tighter bass end but the mids fall back a bit compared to the alnico version.

I personally don't like what ceramic magnets do to the midrange of pickups - AIV all the way for me.

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« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2007, 02:28:08 AM »
ok can anyone record me a warpig clip? i'd really like to have a heavy as hell pickup, but i've yet to hear that pickup playing anything besides just some heavy palm muting. i want to hear it solo, i want to hear it play chords. i want to hear it play some classic rock. i just want to hear what it can do besides palm mutes.

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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2007, 11:43:24 PM »
or if anyone here who has a painkiller would be so willing as to record me a better clip...

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« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2007, 11:39:22 PM »
alright i've limited my picks to either a painkiller or a miracle man. i still like the warpig, but i think that'll be a good choice for a neck pickup later on. I think the holy diver also might be a little bassy in a V- tim also didn't recommend it for a V. So for now, it comes down to a painkiller or a miracle man. which one of these would give me more of a smoother, vintage hard rock tone?

oh yeah, and which one will just plain sound better through my setup?

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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2007, 10:55:35 PM »
ok forget anything i've said so far. I might buy a MM off of MDV and i'm wondering if its right for me. I want something with a heavy low end. Capable of playing pantera, metallica, slayer stuff. Smooth, yet aggressive midrange - think of the intro to Iron maidens version of sabbath bloody sabbath or iced earth's version of god of thunder. For the highs, i don't know, just has to be good for soloing, tapping, and pinch harmonics. As i've said before, as of now i'm not the fastest player, so i want my notes to really stand out.

Is the miracle man right for me, or should i look for something else?

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« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2007, 12:21:42 AM »
^^^anyone have any insight to my previous post? i know you know the answer, you just don't feel like coming to this three page long thread... :lol:

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« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2007, 09:02:37 AM »
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^^^anyone have any insight to my previous post? i know you know the answer, you just don't feel like coming to this three page long thread... :lol:


May I respectfully suggest you use the SEARCH function and do a little research.

Everything you need is here if you look for it.
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« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2007, 09:05:43 AM »
Afghan, thats not really fair. If a person has a question about what pickup will suit their requirements then they're perfectly within rights to post and ask. Otherwise everyone may as well just log in, use search and leave.

May I respectfully suggest that this is a forum, not a database ;)