Author Topic: Quick Questions: (Read 8397 times)

noodleplugerine · « **on:** March 31, 2007, 01:41:20 PM »

Over the last month I've been able to hear my amp choke the sound slightly, resulting in a loss of sustain in the output, and when practicing with a band I noticed my amp is quieter than the amp of a mate of mine's which is identical, (Vox AD30VT for those interested).

Basically the amp startedmaking what basically sounds like someone hitting a bass drum repeatadly with a double pedal which varies in speed. This only happens when the amps turned to about half volume and it's been on for over 10 mins.

I'm guessing that it's the preamp valve? Its in perfect condition etc, so I doubt it's another mechanical problem?

Anyway, not gunna pay to get a new valve etc, instead gunna get a new amp.

Laney VC30 or an Engl Thunder?

I play modern metal, all hi gain stuff, any ideas?

38thBeatle · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2007, 01:57:35 PM »

VC30 is not very metal.Sorry can't help with the amp probs.

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2007, 02:18:25 PM »

Just realised I probably meant the LC30.

There's also a Peavey Valveking 212 which I can try out.

Aer they any more metal?

BloodMountain · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2007, 02:40:59 PM »

from what i've heard, the Valvekings can do metal very well. HOWEVER, check HC for horror stories for the 212 and the 112, the reviews look awful. there are reliability issues from what i've read.
the head has very good reviews, much better than the combos.
apparently the heads and combos sound different too.......

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2007, 02:47:57 PM »

Well, I'll try one out anyway.

BloodMountain · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2007, 02:55:24 PM »

Quote from: noodleplugerine

Well, I'll try one out anyway.

yeah, your opinion is the best opinion

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2007, 03:17:04 PM »

If you're feeling studious you can pour through BLOODMOUNTAIN'S amp thread that went probabably went +10 pages. It appears that you have similar budget and playing style consideration.

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2007, 04:37:52 PM »

Tried the Valveking, and it was very nice.

The one I tried was the 100w 2x12" combo, and it was pretty lovely, but damn heavy and extremely loud.

However, I think although the Valveking is much more "my style", it's still a low end amp, which brings me to the Engl Thunder and Screamer, which are proper amps as far as I'm concered.

Will be trying the ENGL Thunder 50 combo and probably the screamer tommorow, and will prolly then come to a decision.

dave_mc · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2007, 04:50:39 PM »

^ lol at TO's post, +1.

the randall rg50tc would be another to look at around the VK's budget. Also, if you can wait, and if it sounds like its bigger brother (the 100 watt head), the peavey windsor combo might be worth a look for 80's metal tones.

I haven't tried the thunder, but the screamer is far better than all of those, by the way, in my opinion of course. I said it in your other thread, but a genz benz el diablo combo would be worth a look too.

it really depends how much money you have, how long you're willing to wait for something that kicks ass rather than something budget "that'll do", etc., etc.

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2007, 05:55:22 PM »

I'd _LOVE_ an El Diablo combo, but where in London can I see/buy one?

I don't want an amp "that'll do" at all, but I don't have room or need for a half stack.

I'd like a REAL amp, which is why I'm looking at the ENGL combos and second hand Mesas etc.

BloodMountain · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2007, 06:07:09 PM »

Quote from: noodleplugerine

I'd _LOVE_ an El Diablo combo, but where in London can I see/buy one?

I don't want an amp "that'll do" at all, but I don't have room or need for a half stack.

I'd like a REAL amp, which is why I'm looking at the ENGL combos and second hand Mesas etc.

that's what i want. a real amp....... but i have the handicap that is Devon..... London must be full of engls, but there is about 1 engl in a Devon shop....... and it's used!

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2007, 06:41:17 PM »

Not full of them at all, the only place is Rose Morris if I remember right, which is a total joke of a shop imo.

They've bought half of Denmark Street for their assorted shop, and in one storefront labelled "Rose Morris Guitars" they have some ESPs in the window. I ask to try one, they tell me to go next door and downstairs, which I then do.

Once I get there I see a wall of LTDs, without an ESP in sight.

What kind of guitar shop puts all their best guitars solely in the window?

Anyway, as long as I get to try one of them out I think I'll have a clear picture.

Anyone know any combo amps around £500 which compete with a Thunder? Or any around £600 which compete with a Screamer?

Elliot · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2007, 07:22:16 PM »

Are you sure you don't have the secret noisegate engaged on your AD30VT (check out the manual online for how to turn it off) - it is usually the source of the trouble with AD30VTs in terms of volume as it is way over sensitive.

As to the pre amp valve going - it never gets hot so it can't go, it just warms up the sound a bit (like a Cooltron pedal) but is not fundamentally significant in the amplifier architecture in terms of volume.

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2007, 07:44:07 PM »

Then what's the hammering?

Anyway, even if it does work, that just means I can get more if I trade it in, I'm all for getting a new amp now :p

How much better is a Screamer than a Thunder?

On Thomann the difference is £150. Is the extra channel really needed?

Rob Stobbs · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2007, 08:03:23 PM »

The Screamer is Voiced rather differently from the Thunder. The Thunder is an excellent Amp and in all honesty I found that I could cover anything with mine. I have a Mate who uses 2 Screamers as his live Rig and I would suggest that the Screamer is aimed slightly more at the Modern Sounds? I also think that when they are REALLY running hard....The Screamer tends to Mush Up and sound more Compressed than the Thunder.

The market seems pretty stagnant on Evil Bay with them. I sold my Thunder 3 months ago for £396. 3 Years Old Non Reverb Combo with Clone Footswitch. Just to give you an idea?

Rob

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