Marshall Valvestate 8100 (PICS ADDED!)

[BloodMountain]

i doubt it'll sound much better than ur MG. Save up and get what you really want or you'll regret it later...

hmmm everyone else says it will sound good...... and it's only 50 quid.... and in flames used them at one point before they got into 5150s...

anyone else, do you think Indysmith is right?

[indysmith]

i doubt it'll sound much better than ur MG. Save up and get what you really want or you'll regret it later...

hmmm everyone else says it will sound good...... and it's only 50 quid.... and in flames used them at one point before they got into 5150s...

anyone else, do you think Indysmith is right?

I'm not saying it WON'T sound good, i'm saying i doubt it will sound very good compared to many other things, which you havent tried yet. You havent tried this out either; and i don't think anyone else on here has. could be cr@p. One day you'll want a valve amp; i think you know that. And then you're going to be thinking "why the hell did i waste £50 on this piece of shite?" that's if you don't right after you first try it that is...

[Doog]

these days £50 barely buys a basic ss amp so I say go for it.  one thing I can guarantee is it WILL sound miles better than your mg

[BloodMountain]

these days £50 barely buys a basic ss amp so I say go for it.  one thing I can guarantee is it WILL sound miles better than your mg

encouraging!

hey Indy, some people here have tried the old valvestates, just read the rest of the thread!

[indysmith]

argh! i hate to be the scrooge! go ahead, do it. Chances are it'll be alright. Just upset me that before you were looking at the awesome ENGL screamer, and now we're looking at an old battered solid state marshall... It's got some encouraging reviews on HC http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar+Amp/product/Marshall/Valvestate+8100/10/1
(not that that's anything to go by really, but still...)

"Sound Quality :  10

 LOUD AS shite!!! GUARANTEED TO HAVE THE POLICE SHOW UP!!! "
oh dear god...

[BloodMountain]

i hate to be the scrooge! go ahead, do it.

heh, you always seem to hate whatever i suggest  :D of course, unless it is a JCM900......

the only problem with buying this head is the prospect of a cab. i will not have a cab to try it with, therefore i would need to buy one. then, what if the head sounds shitee???? although i'm guessing it won't but you can never be too careful......

perhaps if that was the case, i could sell it and buy a new better head i suppose.......

EDIT: just saw your edit, and i see your point with the ENGL....... now that you put it into perspective, i'm having second thoughts...

[indysmith]

heh, you always seem to hate whatever i suggest  :D of course, unless it is a JCM900......

Really? i don't even particularly like the JCM900s for anything but chainsaw punk sounds. :P
i don't mean to go against ur suggestions - yu just seem to choose things i don't like the sound of. We probably just have differing tastes

[BloodMountain]

yeah, exactly. but should i take this chance? it looks like good nick apart from the knob and the speaker out....... and it gets good reliability reviews too. i wish i had time after school to try it out, but i have to work tomorrow night, and the night after that will be too late, unless it doesn't sell  :(

[HTH AMPS]

if you can get that amp for £50 then you really can't go wrong - you'd be struggling to get a decent distortion box for that kind of cash.

when you do have cash to get something else/different/better then you can always keep the Valvestate for a gig spare - not worth selling a £50 amp imo.  I remember my old VS saving our arses at gigs when valve amps went down - even did a passable job for bass.

 :twisted:

[noodleplugerine]

I think it's a great step-up amp, somewhere between those tiny amps you were looking at and a pro rig. It will definitely play loud enough (and have enough articulation) for gigging, tho.

One spkr out into the mono or 'use first' input of a 2x12. Have the loose jack fixed in case you get another cab, and also less to worry about down the road.

yeah. thanks for the info, i was thinking about buying it then getting it fixed.....

would it react to a Tubescreamer as a valve amp would?

also, would it sound too much like my damned-to-hell MG?

thanks guys  :D

EDIT: heres the link to the auction:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marshall-Valvestate-100v-8100-guitar-amp-head_W0QQitemZ270103316461QQcategoryZ10171QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
it says 4 Ohms, so would a Framus 2x12 work with it?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MARSHALL-Valvestate-100Watt-Head-and-4-X-12-Compact-Cab_W0QQitemZ120102367763QQcategoryZ10171QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

*cough*

[WraithChild]

If you have an MG series then I say go for it, it'll sound loads better then the MG. I would know, i've compared them together and they do make a difference.

Good luck.

[Kilby]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MARSHALL-Valvestate-100Watt-Head-and-4-X-12-Compact-Cab_W0QQitemZ120102367763QQcategoryZ10171QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

*cough*

You could always make an offer for that and his DSL 50 as an all in  package

It may encourage him to sell to ya quicker.

Rob...

[BloodMountain]

NP: that's pickup only, unfortunately. i saw it before when browsing Marshalls that were local pickup only......

WC: thanks dude, i think i will!

HTH: thanks for the encourgaging words, i'm pretty sure i'm going to get it...

who can help me with the cab problem? should i just buy it, buy a cab, then hope for the best? or should i try playing it through my MG combo's speakers?

thanks all  :D

[noodleplugerine]

Is it easy to play a head through the speakers of a combo?

I'm guessing you need to open it up etc?

[BloodMountain]

Is it easy to play a head through the speakers of a combo?

I'm guessing you need to open it up etc?

apparently, if the speaker cables are visible, then you can just plug the cables into the amp head and ONLY turn the amp (not the combo) on.......