Author Topic: can i do it myself? (Read 21599 times)

CJ · « **Reply #30 on:** April 11, 2007, 01:04:51 AM »

well since my LP was right here i took out the backplate of that. i see how although there were 4 pots on my LP, it was basically the same thing. that and since my LP has coil splitters, there were twice as many wires if i'm not mistaken...

the thing is though, on the LP, i had access to the bottom of everything and thats how everything was connected. But on my V, i'll be going in through the top. Will that make it harder?

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #31 on:** April 11, 2007, 01:24:59 AM »

no - not at all - because once you take the scratchplate off with all the stuff still attached to it and flip it over so you are looking at the back, it will look just like the diagram

CJ · « **Reply #32 on:** April 11, 2007, 02:32:15 AM »

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no - not at all - because once you take the scratchplate off with all the stuff still attached to it and flip it over so you are looking at the back, it will look just like the diagram

really, so everythings just connected to the pickguard? i figured everything was connected to the main body and the pickguard just hided everything. well, i guess the pickups would still be routed into the body...

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #33 on:** April 11, 2007, 11:42:23 AM »

which model v do you have ?

All electronics usually fitted to plate n a V
If its a 1958 style then pickups are mounted separately in mounting rings
Later 67 style have it all on a plate
Early 1980s style dont have a pickguard at all

Interesting site here:

http://www.flying-v.ch/

CJ · « **Reply #34 on:** April 11, 2007, 11:32:54 PM »

i'm not sure what style i have. its a 2005 v factor faded. any clue what style it is?

Philly Q · « **Reply #35 on:** April 11, 2007, 11:38:15 PM »

The Faded is basically a '67 style - so everything's attached to the scratchplate.

If you unscrew it you'll find (probably!) that there's just one wire holding it to the guitar, connecting the tailpiece to the back of one of the pots.

noodleplugerine · « **Reply #36 on:** April 11, 2007, 11:39:33 PM »

In relation to the topic title:

You can do it too with Kandoo!

Couldn't resist.

Continue.

CJ · « **Reply #37 on:** April 12, 2007, 12:28:34 AM »

ok still a couple questions refferring to the seymour duncan diagram...

whats with the red wires that go no where?
that random wire coming out of no where saying ground wire coming from bridge... what does that mean?
am i correct in that i do not have to worry about the volume pot when replacing my pickup?
it seems that all i have to do is solder one wire to the base of the bridge tone pot i guess, and one wire to one of those 3 little things coming out of the pot.

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #38 on:** April 12, 2007, 12:48:39 AM »

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whats with the red wires that go no where?

On 4 conductor wire pickups you will still solder connect two of the wires together and insulate them as shown if you are not going to coil tap etc
With Duncan it is the RED and WHITE
With BKP it is GREEN and WHITE

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that random wire coming out of no where saying ground wire coming from bridge... what does that mean?

That is the Earth wire that Philly mentioned- you will see it when you take the pickguard off , and it needs to stay there- so if you have to unsolder it to get at stuff remember to resolder it back on

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am i correct in that i do not have to worry about the volume pot when replacing my pickup?
it seems that all i have to do is solder one wire to the base of the bridge tone pot i guess, and one wire to one of those 3 little things coming out of the pot.

You will notice from the Duncan drawing that you will attach the Bare screening wire and the Green wire which will be the BLACK one from your BKP to the back of the Volume pot

The "hot" wire or output wire (Duncan uses Black but BKP uses RED) goes to the tag on the volume pot for that pickup

So you will have 2 volume contols and one tone as per the picture

Philly Q · « **Reply #39 on:** April 12, 2007, 01:03:24 AM »

Beat me to it, Jonathan! I was just typing out almost the exact same reply. :lol:

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that random wire coming out of no where saying ground wire coming from bridge... what does that mean?

That wire's important, it connects the bridge - and the strings - to ground. Have you noticed when you sit in front of the TV or a computer monitor the guitar hums a little, but it goes away when you touch the strings? That's your body completing the grounding circuit!

CJ · « **Reply #40 on:** April 12, 2007, 01:52:26 AM »

Quote from: FELINEGUITARS

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whats with the red wires that go no where?

On 4 conductor wire pickups you will still solder connect two of the wires together and insulate them as shown if you are not going to coil tap etc
With Duncan it is the RED and WHITE
With BKP it is GREEN and WHITE
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that random wire coming out of no where saying ground wire coming from bridge... what does that mean?

That is the Earth wire that Philly mentioned- you will see it when you take the pickguard off , and it needs to stay there- so if you have to unsolder it to get at stuff remember to resolder it back on

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am i correct in that i do not have to worry about the volume pot when replacing my pickup?
it seems that all i have to do is solder one wire to the base of the bridge tone pot i guess, and one wire to one of those 3 little things coming out of the pot.

You will notice from the Duncan drawing that you will attach the Bare screening wire and the Green wire which will be the BLACK one from your BKP to the back of the Volume pot

The "hot" wire or output wire (Duncan uses Black but BKP uses RED) goes to the tag on the volume pot for that pickup

So you will have 2 volume contols and one tone as per the picture

ah, sorry, it was actually the tone pot that i was talking about. It appears that none of the pickup wires go directly to it, but it is merely connected by the thinner filament wire and the pickup switch?

and as for the random bridge wire, i understand what you are talking about, but where exactly is it coming from. I see on one end it's connected to the master tone, but where is the other end connected to?

WezV · « **Reply #41 on:** April 12, 2007, 09:31:46 AM »

It should go through the body to the bridge, on guitars with trems it goes to the trem claw

CJ · « **Reply #42 on:** April 12, 2007, 10:18:43 PM »

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It should go through the body to the bridge, on guitars with trems it goes to the trem claw

in that case since everything will be coming out with my pickguard, i'm guessing this wire will be attached to the bridge posts or something? And in that case i guess i'll have to melt it off before taking the pickguard all the way out? Or if not in that case, any other wires that will be attached to the body?

Philly Q · « **Reply #43 on:** April 13, 2007, 12:05:24 AM »

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in that case since everything will be coming out with my pickguard, i'm guessing this wire will be attached to the bridge posts or something? And in that case i guess i'll have to melt it off before taking the pickguard all the way out? Or if not in that case, any other wires that will be attached to the body?

As I said further up the page, "If you unscrew [the scratchplate] you'll find (probably!) that there's just one wire holding it to the guitar, connecting the tailpiece to the back of one of the pots."

You'll see the wire coming into the control cavity, from a small hole near the bridge or tailpiece. The body end of the wire's held in place by the metal bushing that the bridge/tailpiece post screws into - leave that end in place, don't try to disconnect it.

All you need to do is unsolder the end of the wire that's connected to a volume or tone pot, then you can take off the whole scratchplate and away you go.

FELINEGUITARS · « **Reply #44 on:** April 13, 2007, 12:34:45 AM »

All will become instantly clear once you try to remove the scratchplate.