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Tyrian

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« on: April 20, 2007, 08:41:41 PM »
Hi
I just purchased a new guitar today (Jay Turser JT230).
It is quite bright sounding.
I want to get some bkp's for it, considering the Nailbomb to even out the sound.
I believe the body is either alder or basswood with a Maple neck/fretboard. Set neck.
The sort of music I play is
Death Metal
 (All Shall Perish, Miseration)

Thrash
(Testament, Onslaught, Slayer, One Man Army And The Undead Quartet, Kreator) Metallica, Megadeth, Novembers Doom, Agalloch.

Any advice would be much appreciated thank you
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2007, 09:09:36 PM »
Your music choice is frightening :) Sorry,i do'nt know much about Death Metal...

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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2007, 09:12:31 PM »
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Your music choice is frightening :) Sorry,i do'nt know much about Death Metal...

yeah but theres

metallica megadeth etc in there, makes it less frightening, no?
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2007, 09:18:37 PM »
Agalloch and Novembers Doom! awesome

anyways, of all the stuff I've learned from this forum, I think Nailbombs or Miracle Men would suit you
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2007, 09:29:38 PM »
I've tried both and i can tell you that i think your looking for a Nailbomb.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2007, 09:40:44 PM »
For yer death the ceramic pig is a one-stop-shop. Its got all shall perish all over it.

For yer thrash its miracle man.

Both can do both, given the right amp and settings. Though I think you'll struggle to get such a brutal sound as on price of existance out of an MM, but it'll fall right out of a C-Pig. Likewise the pig would need some taming to to the smoother, less in-your-face thrash sounds, like rust in peace or legacy but an MM wont have any trouble (even a much less powerfull pickup would do fine there).

A nailbomb may give you the guts and edge you want, but also be tame-able. But I cant comment because I've never played one.

So whats youre priority?

Can you describe the sound you want without bands: compare it to pickups that are well known for metal (jb, 81, x2n, invader what have you)?
How much gain?
How compressed?
What kind of equing?
Ultra-heavy?
Lots of harmonics?
etc.

What, tonally, do you want from it?

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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2007, 09:50:25 PM »
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For yer death the ceramic pig is a one-stop-shop. Its got all shall perish all over it.

For yer thrash its miracle man.

Both can do both, given the right amp and settings. Though I think you'll struggle to get such a brutal sound as on price of existance out of an MM, but it'll fall right out of a C-Pig. Likewise the pig would need some taming to to the smoother, less in-your-face thrash sounds, like rust in peace or legacy but an MM wont have any trouble (even a much less powerfull pickup would do fine there).

A nailbomb may give you the guts and edge you want, but also be tame-able. But I cant comment because I've never played one.

So whats youre priority?

Can you describe the sound you want without bands: compare it to pickups that are well known for metal (jb, 81, x2n, invader what have you)?
How much gain?
How compressed?
What kind of equing?
Ultra-heavy?
Lots of harmonics?
etc.

What, tonally, do you want from it?







Basically, I want a tight, focused sound. High gain, but not ripping my balls out through my mouth. Has to clean up reasonable while sounding natural.

That any help?
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2007, 09:53:37 PM »
Loads

Miracle man.

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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2007, 09:59:48 PM »
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Quote from: MDV
For yer death the ceramic pig is a one-stop-shop. Its got all shall perish all over it.

For yer thrash its miracle man.

Both can do both, given the right amp and settings. Though I think you'll struggle to get such a brutal sound as on price of existance out of an MM, but it'll fall right out of a C-Pig. Likewise the pig would need some taming to to the smoother, less in-your-face thrash sounds, like rust in peace or legacy but an MM wont have any trouble (even a much less powerfull pickup would do fine there).

A nailbomb may give you the guts and edge you want, but also be tame-able. But I cant comment because I've never played one.

So whats youre priority?

Can you describe the sound you want without bands: compare it to pickups that are well known for metal (jb, 81, x2n, invader what have you)?
How much gain?
How compressed?
What kind of equing?
Ultra-heavy?
Lots of harmonics?
etc.

What, tonally, do you want from it?


Basically, I want a tight, focused sound. High gain, but not ripping my balls out through my mouth. Has to clean up reasonable while sounding natural.

That any help?


It's called a Miracle Man :p
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2007, 10:19:37 PM »
Quote from: noodleplugerine
It's called a Miracle Man :p

Or a Warpig.

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2007, 12:17:06 AM »
Just thought that i would add this in, i have played this guitar and it is really bright sounding.

I may be wrong here but wouldn't ceramic pickups just make the guitar brighter????

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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2007, 03:41:15 AM »
There are ways to tame a bright guitar. What you want to do is get a tone that will get you 90% of the way, and then tweak. Just adding a new pickup, no matter what it is (sorry, Tim ;) ) may not get you 100% to audio nirvana.

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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2007, 12:44:49 PM »
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There are ways to tame a bright guitar. What you want to do is get a tone that will get you 90% of the way, and then tweak. Just adding a new pickup, no matter what it is (sorry, Tim ;) ) may not get you 100% to audio nirvana.


True - But I don't think he wants Nirvana's tone.




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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2007, 02:35:42 PM »
The miracle man is pretty bright, though, and extra fixes are extra hassle. Its hard to say without knowing whats in there. It may also be that, with the MM being bassy, too, it ballances.

Anyway

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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2007, 03:16:20 PM »
Maybe a plain old alnico Warpig with a parallel switch for the cleans.
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