Amp Choice Help

[BloodMountain]

Peavey 5150

Krank Kranenstein

too modern IMO, except for Pantera sounds (Krankenstein)

[HTH AMPS]

you'll get a Dual Recto within your £1k budget on ebay - my mate was telling me there is/was one listed today with a BIN price of £700 (bargain).

for cabs you should be good to go with a V30 loaded Marshall 4x12 or you may even find one of the bigger Mesa 4x12s on ebay for £600.  many people seem to favour Orange 4x12s too, might be worth a look at 'em.

 :twisted:

[Tarzan]

How much, and in what way do cabs affect the sound of the amp?

[BloodMountain]

How much, and in what way do cabs affect the sound of the amp?

speakers have different tonal qualities that alter the sound

the wood that it is made of also affects the sound...

i don't know which woods make a great sound (haha), but i know that Celestion Greenbacks and V30s are good, along with a load of Eminence speakers....

[Tarzan]

Thanks BM, would the woods not have the same affects as on a guitar: Maple being bright and mahogany being warmer etc?

[dave_mc]

Mesa MkIV

+1.

I was originally going to recommend a Diezel, but I don't think you will be able to find one in your price range.

Another excellent option, but it will be pretty hard to find in the UK, is Metaltronix.

heh, if you can't afford a diezel, you can't afford a mark IV either... last i looked they were going for £2000 new!

[dave_mc]

Peavey 5150

Krank Kranenstein

too modern IMO, except for Pantera sounds (Krankenstein)

i wouldn't even want a krankenstein for pantera... dime used SS Randalls in pantera... far as i'm concerned, as you say, the krank would be too modern for most of those tones, and not really sound like pantera anyway, in my opinion.

basically, for the tones in question (and as far as i'm aware):

black album metallica: mesa

testament: i think peterson used mesa, skolnick marshall? at least at one point.

COB: not to familiar, i think they're marshall? not certain.

Pantera: you'll probably struggle with tube to get that SS tightness, unless you go for something that's super-heavy and tight, like a powerball or similar... and then you lose out for the less heavy tones.

G n R: marshall.

Far as I can tell, you're probably going to have to make some kind of compromise... are you willing to compromise on the marshally tones, or the mesa-y ones?

also, are you willing to go second hand?

[ChrisMetal]

I'm more willing to compromise on the Marshally tones, I was mainly thinking of my band, at that point cause we play Heavy Rock, but personal tastes I'm more of a Metallica, Testament, Pantera fan. I think CoB(Alexi anyway) uses Lee Jackson pre-amps and a VHT power amps. I think its on their band site.

Oh and I prefer to buy new stuff.

[dave_mc]

if that's the case, you could probably get away with a mesa of some kind (though the ones most aimed at the tones you want are probably over budget) or genz benz el-diablo... engl would probably do it too, but you kind of have to persuade them to sound like mesas...

what all have you tried? or are you still at the thinking stage?

[ChrisMetal]

Still at thinking stage really, there aren't many good amp stores near me. Most just stock mostly Carlsbro, Line6, Laney or Marshalls mainly. Only one store I know of which stocks Mesa's, and that ain't close. I could probably stretch to a Mesa, just take me a long time lol. But I'd have to travel to London to try out any decent amps I expect.

[dave_mc]

^ aye, that's a shame... it's a bit like that here. we actually have a handful of good shops that aren't that hard to get to... but then other brands just have no dealers at all in ireland, which can be annoying.

[Tarzan]

Oh and I prefer to buy new stuff.

What's wrong with second hand? you can get the same thing for cheaper. I got a 6 month old Mesa Boogie F50 for half the original price.

[BloodMountain]

^ aye, that's a shame... it's a bit like that here. we actually have a handful of good shops that aren't that hard to get to... but then other brands just have no dealers at all in ireland, which can be annoying.

exactly the same here, but all i have is Mansons, and a couple of 'guitar corner shops'  :roll:

[dave_mc]

^ heh, judging by the guitar mag ads, i'd be happy to be near mansons.

[BloodMountain]

^ heh, judging by the guitar mag ads, i'd be happy to be near mansons.

HA! have you seen their prices?
type 'mansons' into google, click the first link, and have a browse.

and they are a bit limited when it comes to metal amps: no Mk4, no 6505/5150, no ENGL apart from 1 secondhand no krank, eugh