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CJ

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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2007, 07:14:22 PM »
All hail the great nintendo wii!!!

if only they had games to play for it...

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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2007, 07:23:30 PM »
The only reason it's sucking is because the price is so high, i gurantee if it was the same price as the Xbox it would be doing better.
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2007, 07:32:19 PM »
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The only reason it's sucking is because the price is so high, i gurantee if it was the same price as the Xbox it would be doing better.


PS3 is cheap in Japan compared to here.  About £130 cheaper to be precice.  ;)

The trouble for Sony is that if sales don't pick up in the next few months, most of their 3rd party developers who were working on exclusives will start concentrating on the 360 and Wii, because they can't risk the entire future of their business on a console which is tanking to such an extraordinary level.

And if Sony don't have the "must have" exclusives such as GTA (which they've already lost it seems), Ridge Racer (which they've already semi-lost as RR6 on the 360 is actually better than RR7 on the PS3), Gran Turismo (which is rubbish anyway ;)), etc. then they have nothing to draw people to the console with as it just isn't that much better than the 360 to justify the price.

If Blu-Ray takes off, that may save them.  But both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray show no signs of taking off any time soon.  If HD-DVD were to take the upper hand in the HD film stakes then basically Sony are fscked.  They have thrown millions at Blu-Ray to ensure it succeeds (Have no doubts that this is one of the main objective of the PS3.  They desperately want all those film companies paying them royalties for every HD film release ;)).

Sony are also making a loss on every single PS3 sold and relying on software sales to make up the difference.  Unfortunately that old tactic (which to be fair is what Microsoft are doing too, except they're losing far less money than Sony per console sale) is not working so far.

In Japan the game sales figures up to easter showed a 1.35 attach rate (the amount of games sold per console sold) for PS3 (1,097,000 games sold), which is really bad news for Sony.  To compare, the Wii attach rate for the same period was 2.30 (4,516,000 games sold), but Nintendo actually make a profit on every console sold anyway/

I don't have comparitive figures for the US, but I do know that Microsoft announced a 5.7 attach rate for the 360 in the US back in March.

It's also telling that less than a month after launch people can wander into their local Argos (Bristol in this example) to see if any PS3s are in stock and see this kind of thing:



So Sony can't sell their console, Microsoft are ticking along nicely and Nintendo have had to bring another factory online to try and keep up with demand.

Game developers and publishers have to follow the trends in the industry, so if Sony don't attain critical mass with console sales they will stop developing for it, or at best PS3 versions will be an after-thought.  Developers need to go where the largest installed user base is to make sure they sell enough to make money.  That is exactly what happened to the GameCube.  It did't sell enough consoles and the developers largely ignored it after a while.  It would have died a lot sooner if Nintendo didn't produce as much first party games as they do.

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P.S. Sorry for hijacking your thread Ben.  :D

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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2007, 09:30:18 PM »
All controllers suck apart from snes and megadrive (genesis) controllers. period.

Does anyone else find themselves constantly disappointed with modern games? I play my gameboy a whole lot more than my psp.
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2007, 10:05:24 PM »
No worries, Muttley.

First: Sony wins! New unit is on the way.

Lesson learned - shoulda backed up my saves to a flash memory card ...

Second: The 6Axis controller is almost as good as the dual shock. If you took the cable weight off of a DS, I think they would be the same. I'm not wild about making the L2 and R2 buttons as triggers, but there must be a reason for doing this. Losing vibration means nothing to me as a gamer. A great game doesn't need a gimic like vibration to be compelling.

I've had NO issues in terms of button control with the 6Axis, and I live in the worst area of the WORLD for RF interference!!

Third: Sony is well aware that only early adopters will invest in the PS3. It's hella expensive and there are limited titles at this time. In fact, this scenario is almost exactly what happened with the original PSX, as I'm sure Muttley will attest to, since it's obvious that he knows the genre backwards and forwards. Square left Nintendo for Sony and the rest was history ... I don't doubt the PS3 will be successful in time.

I'm also not suprised that I had an issue with my PS3. That is the price all early adapters must face. I work with the boutique of the boutique in audio gear so it comes as no shock to me when bleeding edge technologies fail.

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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2007, 10:06:27 PM »
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All controllers suck apart from snes and megadrive (genesis) controllers. period.


You liked Nintendonitis?!?!!  :o :lol:

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Does anyone else find themselves constantly disappointed with modern games? I play my gameboy a whole lot more than my psp.


PSP seems to be inflicted with unsuitable games.  A portable games machine really needs games that you can have quick, short goes of really.  DS and GBA are great for that.  As is the GP32 (the Wonderswan is quite fun as well).  :)

Games I've loved recently are Crackdown, Virtua Tennis 3 and Guitar Hero 2 (natch), all on the 360.

My mates game should be coming out in XBLA in a couple of months, and that is looking awesome.  :)

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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2007, 10:10:13 PM »
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All controllers suck apart from snes and megadrive (genesis) controllers. period.

I like that controller. But it's still inferior to Sony's. Period! PDT_008

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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2007, 10:27:23 PM »
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No worries, Muttley.

First: Sony wins! New unit is on the way.


Good news.  :)

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Third: Sony is well aware that only early adopters will invest in the PS3. It's hella expensive and there are limited titles at this time. In fact, this scenario is almost exactly what happened with the original PSX, as I'm sure Muttley will attest to, since it's obvious that he knows the genre backwards and forwards. Square left Nintendo for Sony and the rest was history ... I don't doubt the PS3 will be successful in time.


I'm not sure it's the same thing this time around.  I think Sony are more in the Sega Saturn position this time around (late to market, overpriced and very few games in the pipeline).  And look what happened to Sega after the Saturn!  They came out with the fantastic Dreamcast, but it was too little, too late, and the Saturn had damaged them so much they ended up getting out of hardware completely.

The 360 is the new Playstation.  ;)

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I'm also not suprised that I had an issue with my PS3. That is the price all early adapters must face. I work with the boutique of the boutique in audio gear so it comes as no shock to me when bleeding edge technologies fail.


Yeah, new hardware always has its glitches.  Mind you the PS2 has been really unreliable throughout it's history.  Especially the new slimline version.

Nintendo stuff by comparison seems to be bombproof.

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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2007, 10:48:56 PM »
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The 360 is the new Playstation.  ;)

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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2007, 10:55:41 PM »
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They came out with the fantastic Dreamcast


The best console ever made imo. Countless classics which nobody played :(

Onto the PS3 vs 360 thing - 360 Graphics are better in some areas, PS3 better in others - Neither have "better" graphics, and most of the noticable things look better on 360 (Dynamic lighting, shaders, etc).

360 has usable (yet costing) internet multiplayer support - Which is doing very well - While PS3's is much weaker.

360 has more exclusives, and now has all the Sony exclusives too - They're selling more so they'll get more game developers and they're not the price of a new guitar.

No comment on the controller - Although the Gamecube controller was the best :>
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2007, 11:10:31 PM »
plus you could buy a premium xbox 360 and the HD-DVD drive for (maybe less?) about the same as the base PS3...

i think the PS3 has potential, but it will take a while for us gamers to actually play it, whereas the 360 has been out for some time so developers are getting to grips with it now and can really start pushing it!

This year promises to bring out some fantastic games, for both consoles.


I think Nintendo NAILED it with the Wii... any gamer could justify owning it alongside their 360 or PS3, due to the different games and the innovative controls etc, not to mention the price. Instead of trying to compete, they created a console to compliment and sit alongside the PS3 and 360... genius when you think about it.

i fancy a DS aswell.....

+1 on Dreamcast, it was an awesome console
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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2007, 11:19:38 PM »
You all fail at life.

SEGA MEGADRIVE FTW!!!!

I am still a proud owner after all these years with great titles such as Streets of Rage 1 + 2 (3 goes for £50+ on ebay so i'm not buying that!) All Sonics, GoldenAxe, Mortal Kombats, Street Fighter II etc.

Best console ever made.
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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2007, 11:50:19 PM »
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You all fail at life.

SEGA MEGADRIVE FTW!!!!

I am still a proud owner after all these years with great titles such as Streets of Rage 1 + 2 (3 goes for £50+ on ebay so i'm not buying that!) All Sonics, GoldenAxe, Mortal Kombats, Street Fighter II etc.

Best console ever made.


Streets of Rage 2!!!

A classic :D
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2007, 12:08:22 AM »
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You all fail at life.

SEGA MEGADRIVE FTW!!!!

I am still a proud owner after all these years with great titles such as Streets of Rage 1 + 2 (3 goes for £50+ on ebay so i'm not buying that!) All Sonics, GoldenAxe, Mortal Kombats, Street Fighter II etc.

Best console ever made.


Streets of Rage 2!!!

A classic :D


And here's the high-score table from the gaming competition I run on another forum: http://www.llamascores.org/hi-scores/streetsofrage2.htm

As you can see, I suck at it.  :D

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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2007, 12:13:07 AM »
I've just been playing Streets of Rage 2 on my emulator thanks to this thread :D Its much better on a proper Megadrive on 2 player though, I may have to get one from ebay and bring some mates round for a day of megadrive and beer  8)