Mesa Rectifiers

[indysmith]

i think mesas sound best with single coils

[dave_mc]

Horrid, horrid amps. Sludgy metal drivel... all you need is some EMG pickups feeding a Boogie and you're in generic metal tone limbo.

If I had the money to drop on something as utterly overpriced as a Boogie, I'd definately be looking elsewhere like a phowar-worthy Bogner or Diezel.

i agree (other than bogner, i haven't tried them). I'd certainly be looking elsewhere... if i lived in the USA, it might be another story... $1500 is a fair price for one... not £1700.

fair enough, EMG + Recto = Generic Metal sound, but thats not to say that's all they can do. Santana plays through Mesa's, and i've been told even endorsed them, and you'd find it hard to argue that he play metal.

yheah, but the recto was the amp in question...

Cant stand em. . ENGL Blows em away IMO

Mark

+1, more versatile, better value. unless you have to have the characteristic (generic) recto crunch, there are much better options this side of the pond. engl being one.

Wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDCbEHJrLkc

what? I'm loathe to judge on a youtube vid (but luckily i don't have to as i've tried them) and engl sounds a million times better than that for mid gain, in my opinion. unless you've bought a fireball or something, maybe.

[Crazy_Joe]

I think that clips tone was awful :lol:

But that's just me.

All the old school thrash bands putting out new material use Mesa Rectifiers, like Metallica, Exodus, Testament, Tankard, Destruction etc. Such an awesome thrash amp.

[indysmith]

Such an awesome thrash amp.

if you want your thrash muddy, loose, and scooped :P

[Crazy_Joe]

Your telling me that Testament and Exodus have shite tones?!

[indysmith]

i've jsut listened to those bands (never heard before) and i guess a muddy, loose, and scooped sound suits what they're doing; doesn't float my boat though

[dave_mc]

I think that clips tone was awful :lol:

But that's just me.

All the old school thrash bands putting out new material use Mesa Rectifiers, like Metallica,

i thought they used diezel?

EDIT: just to point out, i actually like the recto tone... just i disagree with its price over here. £1700 for an amp which does one thing well is a bit steep, IMO (though to be fair, i'd only need that recto tone maybe 10% of the time, so maybe that's not a fair criticism). also, i don't think it's versatile... the only non-high gain tone that it had that was even usable, IMO, was the pushed mode on the clean channel... and unless you go MIDI (more money, to add insult to injury!), that means no clean channel (though judging by the quality of the recto's clean channel, that's no great loss...).

And vintage and raw modes just sound like the modern mode with a bit of the gain and presence rolled off, IMO...

as I said, give one to me for the USA price, and I'd probably consider one.

[sgmypod]

yeah overpriced..but love the tone...arn't they used by foofighters as well as vox amps

[_tom_]

what? I'm loathe to judge on a youtube vid (but luckily i don't have to as i've tried them) and engl sounds a million times better than that for mid gain, in my opinion. unless you've bought a fireball or something, maybe.

Well it was more to do with "Sludgy metal drivel..." whereas that clip shows it doing some nice (imho) cleans/mild overdrive. I've never actually played an Engl or Mesa, so my opinion is useless :D

[Crazy_Joe]

I think that clips tone was awful :lol:

But that's just me.

All the old school thrash bands putting out new material use Mesa Rectifiers, like Metallica,

i thought they used diezel?

Who Metallica? They have never ever used Diezel i don't think. I thought they were the most popular Recto users.

[808]

I think that clips tone was awful :lol:

But that's just me.

All the old school thrash bands putting out new material use Mesa Rectifiers, like Metallica,

i thought they used diezel?

Who Metallica? They have never ever used Diezel i don't think. I thought they were the most popular Recto users.

On the dvd that came with St. Anger, James has a Diezel behind him along with his Mesa's. :)

[Crazy_Joe]

Ah, well they are still using Mesa and they always use them live, St Anger sucked in the music and tonal departments anyways.

[dave_mc]

what? I'm loathe to judge on a youtube vid (but luckily i don't have to as i've tried them) and engl sounds a million times better than that for mid gain, in my opinion. unless you've bought a fireball or something, maybe.

Well it was more to do with "Sludgy metal drivel..." whereas that clip shows it doing some nice (imho) cleans/mild overdrive. I've never actually played an Engl or Mesa, so my opinion is useless :D

heh, i'm with crazy joe, i didn't like the tone on the clip...

:drink:

On the dvd that came with St. Anger, James has a Diezel behind him along with his Mesa's. :)

+1

[Crazy_Joe]

Was he using it with the Mesa or as 2 different amps?

[808]

Here's the vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3F2VrLcFgc

You'll get a good look at it around  3:39. I was going off of memory but now that I've watched the vid again, all I see is a Diezel and Roland amp.