Author Topic: Mesa Rectifiers (Read 15700 times)

blue · « **Reply #30 on:** April 26, 2007, 08:29:16 PM »

the Dual Rectifier is a generic metal tone now because before it came along there was nothing quite like it. for mega gain metal people were using heavily modified Marshalls or hard to get hand made amps. it has become a generic sound because it was so good at what it did.

agree with Dave though, if we paid over here what the Americans can get them for, i'd be tempted, but at UK prices, no chance. my El Diablo :twisted: can do much the same thing for half the price. with a speaker built in!

BloodMountain · « **Reply #31 on:** April 26, 2007, 10:32:36 PM »

Quote from: 808

Here's the vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3F2VrLcFgc

You'll get a good look at it around 3:39. I was going off of memory but now that I've watched the vid again, all I see is a Diezel and Roland amp.

yeah. what cabs do they use?

i hope their new album will be better than that......

Mr Ed · « **Reply #32 on:** April 26, 2007, 10:46:46 PM »

Quote from: dave_mc

what? I'm loathe to judge on a youtube vid (but luckily i don't have to as i've tried them) and engl sounds a million times better than that for mid gain, in my opinion. unless you've bought a fireball or something, maybe.

Exactly.

youtube videos can suck my balls... and also people who just film themselves playing are generally narcissistic arseparts so meh.

Quote from: Crazy_Joe

I think that clips tone was awful :lol:

But that's just me.

Me too, obviously that's going to be a combination of how it's been recorded but I'd say the singlecoils naturally treble-edge teamed with an over-rated amp has given it a really shrill sound that offensive to the ears.

Quote from: sgmypod

yeah overpriced..but love the tone...arn't they used by foofighters as well as vox amps

The Foo Fighters, both Dave Grohl and Chris Shiflett, use Mesa Boogie Road Kings and they some of the most ASS guitar tones going. Chris' is marginally better but Dave uses his god-awful Firebird Studio (ie, cheap cr@p) into a Road King and has a sludgy, undefined, muddy mess of cr@p spewing out with way too much gain applied.

The Foos are my favourite band, their postboard is my number one board and we have our own equipment forum and we very frequently dick on their choice of equipment because it got slowly worse.

They haven't used Vox's (live anyway, they record using all sorts) for about 5-6 years since the 2001 album (There Is Nothing Left To Lose) era.

dave_mc · « **Reply #33 on:** April 26, 2007, 10:47:36 PM »

Quote from: blue

(a)the Dual Rectifier is a generic metal tone now because before it came along there was nothing quite like it. for mega gain metal people were using heavily modified Marshalls or hard to get hand made amps. it has become a generic sound because it was so good at what it did.

(b)agree with Dave though, if we paid over here what the Americans can get them for, i'd be tempted, but at UK prices, no chance. my El Diablo :twisted: can do much the same thing for half the price. with a speaker built in!

(a) agreed... but it's still too dear. :lol:

(b) yeah, i'd say the ED is better, IMO- more versatile (or at least, does the non-metal tones better).

EDIT:^ what the heck is an arsepart? :lol:

Mr Ed · « **Reply #34 on:** April 26, 2007, 10:53:58 PM »

Quote from: dave_mc

EDIT:^ what the heck is an arsepart? :lol:

Like a part of the arse... maybe the hole but perhaps the cheek. 8)

dave_mc · « **Reply #35 on:** April 27, 2007, 04:31:10 PM »

Kilby · « **Reply #36 on:** April 27, 2007, 07:06:01 PM »

Quote from: sgmypod

yeah overpriced..but love the tone...arn't they used by foofighters as well as vox amps

Well James Hetfield has apparently purchased 3 or 4 Brian May model AC 30s.

I find it very unfair to critisize Santannas tone, as way back when he found his voice, nobody sounded like that, and no other amps could manage it. If you don't like that tone thats fine. I have to admit that I wish he would show a greater variation in tone (as he did for a while in the early 80s)

No one amp will give you every tone that you want, but it's nice to find one that will give you most of them.

Rob...

PS I prefer the older mesas, and some of the newer models are starting to get interesting again

blue · « **Reply #37 on:** April 27, 2007, 07:30:04 PM »

Quote from: Kilby

PS I prefer the older mesas, and some of the newer models are starting to get interesting again

yeah, the lone star special and the new express amps look interesting, and especially the stiletto, although i'd love to a/b it with the new marshall JVM, just to see is it really £1000 better!

Machek · « **Reply #38 on:** April 27, 2007, 09:56:48 PM »

Did somebody here ever tried those new Marshalls (JVM series and Vintage Modern)? they are said to be real good and i'm quite interested i must say....

Alex · « **Reply #39 on:** April 27, 2007, 11:23:11 PM »

I heard a lot of players who were able to get some great tones from Rectifiers.

If you can't sound good with a Rectifier, you probably need to get some more practice, sorry.

But yes, the thing is totally overpriced in Europe.

Catalyst77 · « **Reply #40 on:** April 28, 2007, 12:06:10 PM »

I'd have to say the opposite, Ive had my boogie for two years now and it is good at producing saturated saggy thick sluggish style distortion- if thats what you want. I find them overly warm and lacking in the punch of a JCM 800 for example.

I think all that makes it easier to mask the shortcommings in your playing. With a more defined articulate sound that cuts through the mix better your more exposing your technique.

I saw the FOO Fighters at hyde park last year and their sound was absolutely awefull, dont know what amps they were using though, but they did sound like boogies

Mr Ed · « **Reply #41 on:** April 28, 2007, 12:44:55 PM »

Quote from: Benmartin1977

I think all that makes it easier to mask the shortcommings in your playing. With a more defined articulate sound that cuts through the mix better your more exposing your technique.

Weird, that's exactly what Justin Hawkins said when he moved from Marshall to Rectumfriers, he said he did so because his technique was more sloppy than his brothers and Boogies were a lot more forgiving for him and he doesn't have to play as tight as Dan does.

Quote from: Benmartin1977

I saw the FOO Fighters at hyde park last year and their sound was absolutely awefull, dont know what amps they were using though, but they did sound like boogies

As I already said, both Dave and Chris use Boogie Road Kings and they sound like ass.

Antag · « **Reply #42 on:** April 28, 2007, 03:09:45 PM »

So anyone who likes Rectifiers is not only stupid but also tone deaf & a cr@p player? :roll: :lol:

Whatever, to each his own, YMMV etc... :)

Antag · « **Reply #43 on:** April 28, 2007, 03:10:27 PM »

FWIW, it's a fair comment that they're overpriced at the moment. With the dollar so weak, the price should have plumetted over here, but it hasn't. Methinks UK distributors & dealers are cashing in :(

indysmith · « **Reply #44 on:** April 28, 2007, 04:13:40 PM »

Quote from: Antag

Methinks UK distributors & dealers are cashing in :(

Westside are bar-stewards... tried to charge me £55 for a new PSU :roll: