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5F6-A

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« on: May 01, 2007, 07:42:15 PM »
Some videos I've made to explain very briefly how to get or use Clapton's Woman Tone and Peter Green's out-of-phase sounds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1t3nR7ydnI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRbrO_VyEqs


Please forgive the home-made quality of the vids....  just wanted to share the tone with people.
The amp was a Roland micro cube digital thing ( 80 quid job ) and the guitar sports wonderful BKP ( what else? ) humbuckers.

Any questions and /or comments will be appreciated. Also please rate the vids at youtube.com. Cheers!!
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2007, 08:04:06 PM »
They both sound pretty good to me though I am not a LP player but I hope you take that as a compliment. As a constructive criticism, I would say the explanation of what "out of phase" means might have been helpful-even if it were very very brief. Great post!
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2007, 08:26:44 PM »
Cheers!
yes you might be right..... being a diehard Fenderman...what do you think of the out-of-pahse sound compared to the typical Fender quack?
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2007, 09:13:22 PM »
thanks a load for those videos - i think that out-of-phase tone might be something that could really appeal to me if i played with it a bit... In my head it'll sound great for on-the-edge arpeggios so i might give it a go some time!
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2007, 10:10:21 PM »
I love the out of phase tone-you are right it does appeal for the reason you suggest.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2007, 03:05:32 PM »
Well i normally use my SG for woman tone and what i do is use both pickups in the middle position and drop the bridge pickups tone all the way to ZERO. This is how i like my woman tone  8)
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2007, 04:24:53 PM »
Yep, nice vids.  Can't say that I liked the Peter Green tone myself - sounded very strange to me for something so un-thick coming from a Les Paul!

Interesting stuff though, and the Woman Tone was great  :)
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2007, 05:15:31 PM »
Thanks for the vids!

I had my LP set up out-of-phase in the middle position. I liked the clean sound alot and pinch harmonics screamed but I got bored with it within a month. Sometimes, I'll play in the middle position and roll the volume on the neck pup down halfway to get close to a Strat sound.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2007, 01:14:47 AM »
Erm, for the woman tone... didn't Eric play both pickups and then roll off the volume on the neck pickup? It gives the snap of a neck pickup but the added oomph from the neck.

And Peter Green's was only the neck wasn't it? Not both.
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2007, 08:40:42 AM »
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Erm, for the woman tone... didn't Eric play both pickups and then roll off the volume on the neck pickup? It gives the snap of a neck pickup but the added oomph from the neck.

And Peter Green's was only the neck wasn't it? Not both.


About the Woman Tone,

Many people believe he used just the neck p/u. Others reckon it was the middle position. I reckon Clapton did use both ways; just neck and neck + bridge with the tone knob rolled off. I find that just neck using the right cap sounds the most authentic but whatever works for you, really.....

About Peter Green's tone,

I am not sure I know what you mean exactly.
For Peter's out-of-phase sound you need to use both p/us wired out-of-phase. The other alternativ is flipping the magnet in one of the pickups . You can't get the same tone using just the neck pickup.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2007, 08:42:44 AM »
Aahh right, cheers. I getcha. :)
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2007, 11:14:25 AM »
Quote from: 808
Thanks for the vids!

I had my LP set up out-of-phase in the middle position. I liked the clean sound alot and pinch harmonics screamed but I got bored with it within a month. Sometimes, I'll play in the middle position and roll the volume on the neck pup down halfway to get close to a Strat sound.


For the added choice of in/out of phase sounds in the middle toggle position, I installed a double pole / double throw push-pull switch behind my treble tone control. I hear Snowy White did this with his Goldtop.

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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2007, 11:16:58 AM »
Quote from: 5F6-A
Some videos I've made to explain very briefly how to get or use Clapton's Woman Tone and Peter Green's out-of-phase sounds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1t3nR7ydnI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRbrO_VyEqs


Please forgive the home-made quality of the vids....  just wanted to share the tone with people.
The amp was a Roland micro cube digital thing ( 80 quid job ) and the guitar sports wonderful BKP ( what else? ) humbuckers.

Any questions and /or comments will be appreciated. Also please rate the vids at youtube.com. Cheers!!


Thanks for the great demos ! It was great to actually hear someone else demonstrate and play these sounds in isolation from the noise of a band.

Nice one !  :D
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2007, 11:18:23 AM »
BTW, I forgot to mention that th out-of-phase sound is a killer for reproducing Albert King's V tone and also for soul/cropper stuff....

check this out;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTeoEl6xKDc

You'll see how the tone I was desmonstrating fits perfectly there.
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2007, 12:41:55 PM »
Well check this out. An explanation by the man himself of the woman tone. Towards the middle of the video around 1.53. Enjoy 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq6r23-le5o
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