Author Topic: PS3 (Read 9754 times)

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #30 on:** May 08, 2007, 06:47:56 PM »

Haha so funny how a games console dispute can get out of hand so quickly :lol:

plastercaster · « **Reply #31 on:** May 08, 2007, 06:52:56 PM »

Quote from: noodleplugerine

Quote from: Davey
argue all you want, it makes no difference.

i'll buy a PS3 now and play games, that will still look great 3 years from now, while you'll have to buy a new computer, to play the next generation of games.

have you seen new games that are run on low spec computers? they look like they've been made in '98.

besides.. the fact that you dont have to hassle around with drivers, this or that incompatibility, too low graphics card specs or whatever (not to mention games crashing without any reason) is good enough for me.

I'll keep my current PC which I use everyday for EVERYTHING, I'll play today's games at graphics as good as PS3, and then in a few years I'll upgrade and play games that are much better graphics than PS3.

And I won't have problems with drivers cos I know wtf I'm doing.

And my PC which never crashes will live on. While the PS3 which crashes repeatedly since release will continue to do so.

Console vs. PC gaming is like a gamers Strat vs. LP. There isn't really a better one.
I get both points - by the time the PS2 came to be replaced the specs were miles behind an average PC, and the same will be true with the PS3.
But where can you buy a PC with equal specs to an Xbox 360 for £300?
Horses for courses and all that, the end of the matter is: You are never going to resolve this debate through an online forum or through any other medium, ever.

Johnny Mac · « **Reply #32 on:** May 08, 2007, 07:05:03 PM »

I'm not that clued up on most of what's been posted but my desktop PC which i bought in 04 still runs games that are new, its P4 3.2ghz, 1G ram and a 256 graphics card, 400G HD. Most of the ads for new pcs don't seem to out do it,but then again whats a duo core cpu? :?

plastercaster · « **Reply #33 on:** May 08, 2007, 07:23:52 PM »

Just what it says on the tin
theres two cores on the chip, so in theory you can get twice the performance.
That's not worked, generally, though some stuff works better than others.

horsehead · « **Reply #34 on:** May 08, 2007, 09:45:02 PM »

I'm seriously considering waiting for the XBox 360 Elite to come out so that I can get Gears of war & the forth coming Lost odyessy (looking likely to be the best RPG since final fantasy 7), but also alowing for me to run a HDMI cable from it & hooking up a HD-DVD player so that I can keep playing for quite a few years & get the best graphics out of a dvd player as well

genocidal tendencies · « **Reply #35 on:** May 08, 2007, 09:53:58 PM »

I can't help but wonder if all this fancy graphics isn't essentially the same as Tim firing all his staff and selling his workshop to fund diamond coated pickup covers, which don't actually have pickups in anymore...

Kilby · « **Reply #36 on:** May 09, 2007, 12:47:39 AM »

Quote from: genocidal tendencies

I can't help but wonder if all this fancy graphics isn't essentially the same as Tim firing all his staff and selling his workshop to fund diamond coated pickup covers, which don't actually have pickups in anymore...

:)

BTW rumour is the PS4 is to be launched in 2 years, with add on cards to be available for the PS3 around the same time.

Oh yeah some ducal core cr@p is in my overly long posting previously.

In windows vista, they will probably use one core to look after the DRM, as sony will use a core or 2 to do the same thing for vidio on demand via the PS3

IE they will use your horse power to do something you don't even want !

Rob...

99_not_out · « **Reply #37 on:** May 09, 2007, 01:54:54 PM »

Regards Kilby's parallel processing comments, good programmers who can actually do parallel processing are pretty thin on the ground as you actually have to be able to think, rather than just having sat a bunch of exams in college :). True concurrent programming requires the ability to hold many abstract situations in your head at once which is a relatively rare skill.

Regards the PS3, this works both for and against the console. All PS consoles have supported some form of parallelism, which makes them hard to program for, but also means that once you get a team together who can actually do it the results are amazing.

I personally believe Sony does this on purpose. The tricky architecture results in a natural quality improvement over time as the software houses start to get to grips with the system. For example, about 2 years into the PS1's life, sony released a 'tuning' pack that let the games developers see where they could improve the performance of their games regards the parallel set up. This almost immediately led to a jump in quality on the same hardware - no new graphics cards required or extra RAM; but you still get better games. The best example of this is say a comparison between Ridge Racer, a release title on the PS1, and perhaps (in terms of software coding) the greatest game of all time - Gran Turismo 1 which is frankly amazing given the hardware it was running on. I believe they even used part of the sound card to do the physics modeling :)

Anyway, my point is this:

TwilightOdyssey · « **Reply #38 on:** May 09, 2007, 03:45:31 PM »

^ That post deserves a gold star! :idea:

chrisola · « **Reply #39 on:** May 09, 2007, 08:44:02 PM »

in a related note, and good news for 360 owners:

The Forza Motorsport 2 demo hits TONIGHT on xbox live.

http://forzamotorsport.net/default.htm

Gran Tourismo? Pfft :P

Crazy_Joe · « **Reply #40 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:25:30 PM »

HAHA PS4 in 2 years, that's a good one! When Sony say 2 years they usually mean about 10!

Transcend · « **Reply #41 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:09:55 PM »

Quote from: Crazy_Joe

HAHA PS4 in 2 years, that's a good one! When Sony say 2 years they usually mean about 10!

i used to own a ps4 ages ago and a ps7.....

they were jacksons like.

sambo · « **Reply #42 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:53:38 PM »

Quote from: chrisola

in a related note, and good news for 360 owners:

The Forza Motorsport 2 demo hits TONIGHT on xbox live.

http://forzamotorsport.net/default.htm

Gran Tourismo? Pfft :P

+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i dont see the fuss about gran turismo... about 962356 years ago when it was reasonably fresh and pretty much the only decent racing game, i thought it was pretty cool.... but my god.... forza actually just thrashes it entirely in my opinion.

damn i want a 360 now.... Oblivion, Gears of War, Dead Rising, Forza 2, Saints Row.... all great games that i need so baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!!

chrisola · « **Reply #43 on:** May 10, 2007, 07:33:39 PM »

heh, i'm download the Forza 2 demo now :P

Gears of War is !!!!!! good

99_not_out · « **Reply #44 on:** May 10, 2007, 09:05:22 PM »

Quote from: sambo

i dont see the fuss about gran turismo... about 962356 years ago when it was reasonably fresh and pretty much the only decent racing game, i thought it was pretty cool.... but my god.... forza actually just thrashes it entirely in my opinion.

GT has undoubtedly since been surpassed in terms of gaming experience, however at the time it represented a turning point for consoles in terms of both technological accomplishment and gaming experience.

IMHO, Gran Turismo is up there with Doom in this respect - done far better since but also a game that changed everything that came after it.

Forza is a superb title, but it owes a lot to GT, in the same way that <insert current best FPS> owes a lot to Doom.

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