PS3

[Miracle Man Matt]

TO ALL THOSE WHO DONT THINK THE PS3 IS ANY GOOD/NOT MUCH BETTER....

First of all I dont own any consoles apart from a PS2 that i have 3 games for and have not played it in over a year.

I do Cybernetics and Artificial Intelligence and at am a member of the IET.  just before we had easter, i went to a lecture on the PS3 and was blown away!!!

The most powerful PC at the mo has 4 cores running at 3.4Ghz

The PS3 has 9 running at 3.6 although it will go up to 5.4Ghz...That is incredible!!!!

this comprises of 1 main core, 1 black boxed off and 7 VPU cores (for grafix processing ectr)

The Bus bandwidth is double that of a PC

And the grafix card owns.. although doesn't seem as powerful as the latest DX10 cards for a PC.

some of the demo's we saw were absolutely astounding.  I have a fully speced up PC and just the core of the PS3 would whip its ass compared to the whole thing...well maybe not, will have to see when DX10 games come out.

HOWEVER the games I have seen for it at the mo in the shops were absolutely wank. and did not look like it deals with ani-aliasing

I do not doubt tho that there will be some amazing things to come.

the PS3 IS light years ahead of the 360, just the games are not here yet


end off..


sorry i just had to get that off my chest after reading the first page of the PS3 topic.

[FELINEGUITARS]

Yes - but at the end of the day it is still a games console and terefore not much use to me...

Sorry - being cheeky and flippant.
Just never have been into computer games

I do agree that gaming forces big advances in technology and delivery of IT services ( as does pornography so they say in tech circles)

[Davey]

you have to take into account that the most powerful DX10 graphics cards for the PC, cost about as much as the console itself ;)


i am SERIOUSLY tempted to go out and buy the PS3.

[Crazy_Joe]

I have always been a Playstation guy, never got into Xbox and only rarely play Nintendo's. I want one but i will wait for a price drop.

[noodleplugerine]

I honestly couldn't give a cr@p how great the PS3 is.

In the end it has awful games, no exclusives and a price tag over the cost of a good guitar.

[TwilightOdyssey]

I honestly couldn't give a cr@p how great the PS3 is.

In the end it has awful games, no exclusives and a price tag over the cost of a good guitar.

I was shocked how backwards-looking England is towards video games when I was over last week. Totally different attitude than the US.

[Davey]

I honestly couldn't give a cr@p how great the PS3 is.

In the end it has awful games, no exclusives and a price tag over the cost of a good guitar.

it has the same games as any PC out there, and the cost of a GOOD PC, that will run every game, is in the ballpark of a custom shop guitar.


quit yer bitchin

[Crazy_Joe]

I honestly couldn't give a cr@p how great the PS3 is.

In the end it has awful games, no exclusives and a price tag over the cost of a good guitar.

Awful games?! It's only just come out, and they looked alright to me...

[chrisola]

As you say, specs mean nothing if the games aren't up to it. (anyone played \ seen Fear on the PS3??? EURGH!!)

the PS3 has all the bells and whistles in the world, but right now developers still cant get 2 year old games like Fear to run as good as they do on a  2 year old PC :P

When Crysis comes along on the PC, it will blow away EVERYTHING on the xbox 360 \ PS3, and by the time the console games start to live up to it, the next next next gen games will be arriving on the PC...

You can either spend thousands on a top spec PC and enjoy cutting edge gaming as it happens, or by a console and enjoy it several months later, and to a lesser degree... for most people its a worthwhile trade off.

[Davey]

You can either spend thousands on a top spec PC and enjoy cutting edge gaming as it happens, or by a console and enjoy it several months later, and to a lesser degree... for most people its a worthwhile trade off.

for a fraction of the price of a full fledged PC, not to mention it will run without the extensive hassle that you get with the PC.


for gaming, it's the best to buy a console, unless you are prepared to dish out a boat load of money, to make everything look SUPER.


with the PS3 it's like this.. they will start making games that will be tailored to the specs of the PS3.. as opposed to games being made for the PC, that always push the envelope and require a more and more powerful PC, as each new game is released. me, i can live without buying a new computer every 6 to 10 months, to play the newest games.
besides, computers require constant maintenance, unless you only do some internet and word processing with it.

so, the console gets my vote. and i was a long time PC supporter as far as graphics and performance go, but you got to take in account, at what price you get that. cos if you find a system for 600€, that will perform equally well, than the PS3 (for years to come) then PLEASE, tell me where i can find it.

and there is nother side to this arguement:

As you say, specs mean nothing if the games aren't up to it.

sharp graphics and eye candy mean nothing if the computer isnt up to it.

[Sailor Charon]

PS3... how do I feel? 'Tomorrow is anoth...' (nope) Ah yes...
'Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.'
I've played video games since the Atari 2600 and Vic 20. I've played games on C64, Amiga, ST, 2600, Colecovision, Famicom, Super Famicom, Master System, Playstation, Saturn, NeoGeo,  XBox, PS2 and PC. I've played arcade games since before Space Invaders.

And you know what? I've lost interest. Square have killed off Final Fantasy as far as I'm concerned. (I never hated random battles, don't like real time combat.) I don't like FPS or RTS. I liked beat-em-ups, but Tekken 5 and Dead or Alive 3 killed that with their stupidly difficult bosses with their cheap   moves. I still like all the old games, the 2D beat-em-ups, shoot-em-ups and puzzles, but...
To quote the theme from 'Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads.'
"Is the only thing to look forward, to the past"
[Does anybody know a good USB Arcade Stick for the Mac? MAME's enough for me]

[chrisola]

sharp graphics and eye candy mean nothing if the computer isnt up to it.

Thats not really the point though, unless you only consider a good game to only be all eye candy and graphics? Remember a pc game is tweakable from all the gfx options...

Its called gaming, not 'looking at pretty pictures'  after all :P


Anyway, hopefully this year will open up to some truly great console games aswell as PC ones... my xbox 360 hasn't been turned on in a while due to lack of proper new releases :(

[_tom_]

gameplay > graphics.

[noodleplugerine]

I honestly couldn't give a cr@p how great the PS3 is.

In the end it has awful games, no exclusives and a price tag over the cost of a good guitar.

it has the same games as any PC out there, and the cost of a GOOD PC, that will run every game, is in the ballpark of a custom shop guitar.

For a start - No it doesn't.

And secondly - Every household has a computer regardless of whether they play games or not - Are you telling me it's between a computer and a PS3?

And that people prioritise gaming over say - The internet? Word Processing? Photo editting? Movie making? THE BKP FORUM?!

You can either spend thousands on a top spec PC and enjoy cutting edge gaming as it happens, or by a console and enjoy it several months later, and to a lesser degree... for most people its a worthwhile trade off.

for a fraction of the price of a full fledged PC, not to mention it will run without the extensive hassle that you get with the PC.


for gaming, it's the best to buy a console, unless you are prepared to dish out a boat load of money, to make everything look SUPER.


with the PS3 it's like this.. they will start making games that will be tailored to the specs of the PS3.. as opposed to games being made for the PC, that always push the envelope and require a more and more powerful PC, as each new game is released. me, i can live without buying a new computer every 6 to 10 months, to play the newest games.
besides, computers require constant maintenance, unless you only do some internet and word processing with it.

Every 6-10 months? If that was true no top end game would hit the top 10 until 6 months after it was first released.

so, the console gets my vote. and i was a long time PC supporter as far as graphics and performance go, but you got to take in account, at what price you get that. cos if you find a system for 600€, that will perform equally well, than the PS3 (for years to come) then PLEASE, tell me where i can find it.

and there is nother side to this arguement:

As you say, specs mean nothing if the games aren't up to it.

sharp graphics and eye candy mean nothing if the computer isnt up to it.

Ever heard of settings?


Now honestly.

Console fans - I'm honestly clueless here - Targetting the PS3/Xbox generation of games - Have there been ANY particularly great ones?

GTA was good - But I'll be frank. Boring. Fast. At least on the PC version you could mod in the Batmobile... (Aswell as actually having a mouse to aim...)

Halo? No thanks. Every PC shooter is better - Really.

The recent Final Fantasies? Perhaps - But not much of an FF fan so I can't comment here - Haven't played any of them all the way through either.

[Transcend]

I honestly couldn't give a cr@p how great the PS3 is.

In the end it has awful games, no exclusives and a price tag over the cost of a good guitar.

it has the same games as any PC out there, and the cost of a GOOD PC, that will run every game, is in the ballpark of a custom shop guitar.

For a start - No it doesn't.

And secondly - Every household has a computer regardless of whether they play games or not - Are you telling me it's between a computer and a PS3?

And that people prioritise gaming over say - The internet? Word Processing? Photo editting? Movie making? THE BKP FORUM?!

You can either spend thousands on a top spec PC and enjoy cutting edge gaming as it happens, or by a console and enjoy it several months later, and to a lesser degree... for most people its a worthwhile trade off.

for a fraction of the price of a full fledged PC, not to mention it will run without the extensive hassle that you get with the PC.


for gaming, it's the best to buy a console, unless you are prepared to dish out a boat load of money, to make everything look SUPER.


with the PS3 it's like this.. they will start making games that will be tailored to the specs of the PS3.. as opposed to games being made for the PC, that always push the envelope and require a more and more powerful PC, as each new game is released. me, i can live without buying a new computer every 6 to 10 months, to play the newest games.
besides, computers require constant maintenance, unless you only do some internet and word processing with it.

Every 6-10 months? If that was true no top end game would hit the top 10 until 6 months after it was first released.

so, the console gets my vote. and i was a long time PC supporter as far as graphics and performance go, but you got to take in account, at what price you get that. cos if you find a system for 600€, that will perform equally well, than the PS3 (for years to come) then PLEASE, tell me where i can find it.

and there is nother side to this arguement:

As you say, specs mean nothing if the games aren't up to it.

sharp graphics and eye candy mean nothing if the computer isnt up to it.

Ever heard of settings?


Now honestly.

Console fans - I'm honestly clueless here - Targetting the PS3/Xbox generation of games - Have there been ANY particularly great ones?

GTA was good - But I'll be frank. Boring. Fast. At least on the PC version you could mod in the Batmobile... (Aswell as actually having a mouse to aim...)

Halo? No thanks. Every PC shooter is better - Really.

The recent Final Fantasies? Perhaps - But not much of an FF fan so I can't comment here - Haven't played any of them all the way through either.

Metal Gear Solid 4 will kick majopr ass.

And resident evil 4 is far better on the gamecube and ps2 than on the pc.